Reading through the list of messages on here it seems most of us are related courtesy of one John Wintle of Llansamlet. My line is from his seventh child, Thomas who was a twin with Anne - born 1802. Thomas married Mary Jenkins (1824)and daughter Elizabeth (b1823/4) married William Lloyd (1848). Their offspring were Wintle-Lloyds, William (b1846?) married Ann and a son Ernest Wintle Lloyd (b1874) married Elizabeth Leyshon in 1896. They had a daughter Annie Elizabeth who was my mothers mother. Are you still with me here? Beyond William Wintle-Lloyd I am in debt to Margaret Hicks who is a fount of knowledge where the Wintles are concerned. It seems that most, if not all, are stuck on John of Llansamlet, did you know that his wife was a Wintle? Sarah Hill was the daughter of Mary Wintle and John Hill. It would be facsinating to see if there is a loop there and our John is related to Mary.