I gave it my best shot & did not succeed. Alice's Mom & Dad were in Dayton, Ohio every year (in the City Directories) but she was simply not listed anywhere in the Montgomery County Probate court indices OR the record books. I'm sure she was born in Dayton but the date will have to wait. All I can do is surmise based on censuses. Sorry. Both sets of grandparents were also nearby. Sheesh!