The Horn's of Horn's Valley Alabama:Information about John Waight
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John Waight (b. 1708, d. Abt. 1768)John Waight was born 1708 in Wiltshire England, and died Abt. 1768 in Prince George Parish, Craven, SC.He married Mary Shaw.
Notes for John Waight:
The Waight family sailed from Bristol England prior to 1757.They sailed on the ship St Helena into Charlestown, SC whose master was George Arthur."Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina, 1763-1773, pgs 103, 106, 108 compiled by Janie Revill, (Baltimore Publishing Co., Inc 1981)
The Colony of South Carolina was offering to pay a bounty to both the immigrants and the ship's captain in an effort to promote the immigration of Protestants.This bounty may have been the determining factor in deciding which of the colonies the family selected.In 1757 John Waight Sr and his family were granted warrants for 550 acres of land in Craven Co, SC.John Waight apparently died prior to recieving a second grant in 1762.Thomas Waite and Andrew Johnson were executors of his estate in 1762 in Prince George Parish, Craven, SC.
Joe Jackson's rootsweb website has this information:
The information that follows on Samuel and his family was furnished by Dick Waits, whom I am forever indebted to.
Two literal transcriptions of original records found in Charleston, South Carolina. The information transcribed is the same in both texts. Janie Revill," A Compilation of the Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina 1763-1773 " (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1999, pages 103-107). Mary Bondurant Warren, " Citizens and Immigrants, South Carolina 1768 " (Heritage papers, Athens, GA, 2nd edition, 1994, pages 24-26) The ship, St. Helena, arrived in Charleston, South Carolina, from Bristol on February 3, 1768. The master of the ship was George Arthur(Arthar) and its owners were Messers English and Lloyd. passage was paid for the passengers on this ship by the treasurer of the colonial government.
The passenger list on this ship included the following family. On February 13, 1768 the proclamations of Warrants of Survey on the Bounty were read.
John Waight, age 60 - granted warrants for 250 acres either in Granville Co. or Craven Co.
Mary Waight, age 52 -
John Waight, age 19 - 100 acres
Samuel Waight, age 15 - 100 acres
Benjamin Waight, age 13
Sarah Waight, age 8
The two youngest were granted warrants for 100 acres.
In both the sources cited above, there is another family who arrived in Charleston at the same time as did the family shown above aboard the Brig Lord Dungannon, Robert Montgomery, Master.
John Waite, age 24
Mary Waite - age 23
Eleanor Waite - age 2
So how do we discern which is the correct Waite or Waight family; or for that matter is either one of these correct?
1. Research done by Wallace Waits indicated that Allen Waits' son Joseph was named for Allen's brother. Therefore, we must find a family that had at least an Allen and a Joseph as brothers.
2. Wallace's work also indicates that Allen's father, brothers and a sister immigrated from England. Once again, we must look for a similar record.
3. We need to find a record of an immigrant family in Newberry Co., SC, as Allen was born there.
4. What about Deed Records? - Deed records abstracted by Brent H. Holcomb, Newberry Co., SC Deed Abstracts, VOl 1: Deed Books A-B, 1785-1794 (1751-1794) SMCAR, Columbia, SC, 1999 include several transactions involving land owned by John Waits and transactions involving land owned by Samuel Waits in Newberry County, South Carolina, on the north side of the Saluda River. These transactions occurred between 1789 and 1794.
5. Another source of information is an old letter that describes an interview with Myrtle Waits Davis, the youngest child of Joseph and Eunice Waits. The writer of the letter is Mrs. Elizabeth Chupet and she says.."I believe that our first Waits ancestors from Scotland were John Waight who arrived in South Carolina in 1767 or 1768 with wife Mary and their four children. According to Mrs. T. Alvis Davis (Myrtle Waits Davis), a daughter, is still living (and) will be 92 April 1, 1977, of Joseph Waits, brother of James Cope Waits, our great grandfather, 'Allen's father Samuel came to the Carolinas with two other brothers and a sister. Either the father or grandfather was named John'. Although Myrtle Waits Davis is nearly 92, she is very much on the ball. Her husband was a Presbyterian minister in the Galveston area. Until recently she kept up her own household, now, however, is not well enough and is in a rest home in Texas City, Texas." Mrs. Chupet is the one who interviewed Myrtle.
From this statement it would seem most likely that the correct family to be tracing would be the Waight family who immigrated in 1768 consisting of John, Sr., Mary, John Jr., Samuel, Benjamin and Sarah.
As far as Samuel goes, the research that has been done so far would indicate that he first married Sarah ? and had several children, of which three were Joseph, born 1783, John C. born about 1785 and Allen born 1790, all born in Newberry Co. SC. Some suggest that there were more born to this union, but their names are not known. Sarah died after Allen was born and Samuel remarried. His second wife was Susanna(h) Tidmore and their children are well documented. It is thought that Samuel and Susanna married about 1796, Newberry Co., SC. Judging by the fact that Samuel would have been about 43 years old at the time, it is fairly certain that he was married before and had children previously to the second marriage. Sources say that Samuel then moved to Hall County, GA abt 1804.
Revolutionary War Records indicate Samuel Waits of Newberry County did a short enlistment during the War for Independence. (Battle of Etuwah) This is referenced in "The National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Volume 1-85. 1660-1900s. Supplement I, Supplement: Index to Revolutionary War Pension Applications", Page 1172. Entry is located in search on Genealogy.com Also, on Ancestry.com a search revealed a record for Samuel Waits in the 1832 Georgia Cherokee Land Lottery - County: Troup, Residence: M'Gehee's, Comment: Revolutionary Soldier, District: Tenth District, Third Section, Cherokee. Pension Application follows:
Samuel Waits, Rejected
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
The State of Alabama
J.P. Nathan B. Garrett
On this 2 day of March 1855 personally appeared the declarant Littleberry Hutchins, a resident of said State and County of Randolph Co, Al aged Sixty years, who being first duly sworn in open Court according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress past June the 7th, 1832. That Samuel Waits enlisted as a volunteer in the army of the United States in or about the year 1780 or 1781, and served in No. of Regiment not known, under the following officers Captain not recollected, in a regiment commanded by Col. Waters and that he, the said Samuel Waits was at the time of his enlistment a resident citizen of Newberry District and State of South Carolina. He entered the service at Carks Station some time in 1780 or 1781, and served two tours of duty as a private soldier amounting in all to seven months in actual service and that he was in the battle of Eutaw Springs in South Carolina and served as a Whig upon the American side, and the declarant hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that the name of Samuel Waits or that of his own is not on any pension roll of any agency in any State (if any). Only on that of the Agency in the State of South Carolina, Declarant makes this statement in right of his wife Katharine Waits, who is a daughter of the said Samuel Waits deceased, he died sometime in the date 1836, the day of the month not recollected, and left a widow Susana Waits who also died in 1844 the day of the month not recollected. There is now left 7 heirs all children of Samuel and said Susanna Waits. The following is a list of their names, Henry, James and Jacob were the sons. Katherine Hutchins, Dolly Horn, Rosanna Robertson and Sarah Mathews daughters, he makes these statements from what he has always heard the old man report of himself in regard to his Revolutionary Services and many others and that he also heard the old man, his father-in-law who was Samuel Waits (sometimes spelled Samuel Wates) sworn to his services as above stated and also heard John Hilborn sworn who testified that he was in the service of the Revolutionary War and a citizen of Newberry District, S.C. and that Samuel Waits was with him in the war 7 months and also with him in the battle at the Eutaw Springs in 1781 and he has every confidence in the truth and veracity of both Samuel Waits and John Hilborn and that their uniform and upright conduct through life forbids the idea of their misrepresenting in old age any act of their youth and furthermore, the old man Waits my father-in-law has frequently told me that he served off and on a great part of the Revolutionary War, the said Hilborn being in actual service with him only 7 months, that he makes this declaration as the duly and legal and authorized agent for and the heirs of the said Samuel and Susanna Waits deceased and declarant further states that he refers the department to the affidavits of the said Samuel Waits and John Hilborn which should be on file in the department, together with the affidavits and certificates hereto attached all of which will go to confirm what he has here stated, all numbered here in their regular order, James Culberson, No. 1, ? T. Johnson, No. 2, John Johnson, No. 3, Henry West, No. 4. Joel D. Newson, No. 5, Sworn to and subscribed this day and year above written, Littleberry Hutchins. (his mark)
Nathan B. Garrett Justice of the Peace.
The State of Alabama, Randolph Co
I, Joseph Benton, Judge of the Court of Probate in and for said county and state, certify that Nathan W. Garrett whose genuine signature appears to the attached sheet and declaration is an (?) Justice of the Peace in and for said county (?) and commissioned according to law and that due faith and audit is due and should begin to all of his official acts as such justice.
Given under my hand and seal of office at…this 2nd day of March in the year of our Lord 1855. Joseph Benton, Judge of Probate.
State of Georgia, Troup County
Before me Bryant Johnston a Justice of the Peace for said County, personally appeared Lauley(?) T. Johnson, who after being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he was personally acquainted with Samuel Waits in his life time and that he was present at one time when the said Samuel Waits was duly Qualified and said upon (?) that he had served as Revolutionary Soldier during a large portion of said War and as an American Soldier. I have no doubt but said Samuel Waits was of sufficient age during said War to (?) army as a soldier. Said Samuel Waits and wife were both very old persons and always lived together as man and wife during my acquaintance with them. Said Samuel Waits died about the year Eighteen hundred & thirty six and a near neighbor to me. I would suppose at his deceased to be eighty years of age or upwards. His heirs, Henry, James and Jacob, sons, Katherine Hutchins, Dolly Horn, Rosanna Roberson & Sarah Mathews were reported to be his heirs of said Samuel Waits.
Sworn to and subscribed of me, this 3rd day of Feb, 1855
Affidavit follows from David Turner, Clerk of the Court of Troup County certifying that Bryant Johnston was JP, Date Feb 3rd, 1855
The State of Alabama, Randolph Co
Personally appeared before me James M. Pittmann, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, Henry Hutchin(s) and after being duly sworn according to law say that Samuel Waits died on the 18th day of April, A.D. 1836 and his wife Susan Waits died on the 10th day of June A.D. 1844 and that they have seven heirs yet living. Henry Hutchins
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 7th day of May A.D. 1855
James M. Pittman, JP
May the 8th day 1855
D. Sir, Since I have written you I have been able to obtain the particular date of the death of Samuel Waits and his widow Susan Waits, I can not yet hear anything from the Comtroller of South Carolina. I have never heard anything of Mr. Samuel Waits being on any pension roll in any State, I have not yet been able to ascertain the exact date of his marriage supposing that the department had before them sufficient testimony, who I am not acquainted with the law in such cases. Please transmit to me as soon as you can. Yours with due respect, Littleberry Hutchins
There is another Samuel Wates/Waits who married Rosanna Christine Rickerd. They are found in the 1850 census both having attained the age of 90. Both indicate they were born in NC. For more information on this Samuel , see Samuel Waits, son of John Waits, brother to our Samuel.
Children of John Waight and Mary Shaw are:
- +Samuel Waits, b. 1753, Wiltshire England, d. August 18, 1836, Jasper Co Ga.