ROBBINS-AGNEW:Information about Saher de Quincy, IV, 1st Earl of Winchester
Magna Charta Surety Saher de Quincy, IV, 1st Earl of Winchester (b. 1155, d. 03 Nov 1219)
Notes for Saher de Quincy, IV, 1st Earl of Winchester:
Saher de Quincy (IV), 1st Earl of Winchester,
Magna Charta Surety
Born in 1155
Died on November 3, 1219 at Damietta, Egypt on the Fifth Crusade.
References:
Richard Thomson:An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, London, 1829
AR 53-27, MC 74-1, CP VII/2 pg. 748-751
Saher de Quincy was one of the 25 sureties of the Magna Charta, for which he was excommunicated.His singular christian name of Saher, or Saier, is a likely a corruption from the Saxon Segher, Sigher, or Seagar, a Conqueror.Eliza S. Quincy refers to him as "John de Quincy, created Earl of Winchester by King John, 1207.
He was a leader of the Barons who forced John to sign the Magna Charta."
The arms of Saher de Quincy are described as "Or, a fesse gules, a file of 11 points azure".As with the genealogy, the arms of Saher de Quincy are uncertain.Argent can be used instead of or, and the colours of the fesse and file can be transposed.As well, the file doesn't appear to be definite, and is pictured in different places with 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 points. (Richard Thomson:An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, London, 1829. Click here for more from this book.)
Saher de Quincy marriedMargaret de Beaumont, daughter and heir of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester and youngest sister and co-heiress of Robert Fitz-Parnell, Earl of Leicester. For her ancestry, see Margaret de Beaumont. On the death of Margaret's brother on October 20 or 21, 1204, Saher de Quincy became coheir to half of the vast estates of the Honours of Leicester and Grandmesnil.
Saher de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont had the following children:
Robert de Quincy, crusader, see Generation four
Roger de Quincy, see Generation Four
Hawise de Quincy, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford. MC 120-2, CP VII/2 pg. 751
Orabelle de Quincy, who married Richard de Harcourt. MC 111-2
Lorette de Quincy, who married William de Valoynes of Panmure, Forfare, Chamberlain of Scotland. CP VII/2 pg. 751
Saher de Quincy had the following children, but the name of the mother is not known:
Robert de Quincy, 3rd son, see Generation Four
John CP VII/2 pg. 751
Children of Saher de Quincy, IV, 1st Earl of Winchester are:
Children of Saher de Quincy, IV, 1st Earl of Winchester are:
- Robert de Quincy, d. 1217, London, England.
- Hawise de Quincy.
- +Roger de Quincy.