Robert L. Schneider Jr.'s Family Home Page:Information about John Carr
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John Carr (b. Abt. 1803, d. Bet. 1860 - 1870)John Carr was born Abt. 1803 in South Carolina, and died Bet. 1860 - 1870 in Stonefort,Saline County, Illinois.He married Nancy Taylor, daughter of Samuel McDaniel Taylor and Mary Brinson.
Notes for John Carr:
Listed in 1850 Jackson County, Alabama census, District 19.John Carr, 47, Laborer, born SC; married Nancy,age 44 born KY.
Earliest census record of John Carr is 1830 Jackson County Alabama census.In 1830, there are two John Carrs listed in the census. East of the 4th Range line, 15th entry on No.4.His entry shows two males 5 to 10, one under 15, one 15 to 20, one male 50 to 60. Females one 5 to 10, one 10 to 15, two 15 to 20, one 40 to 50. Second entry Northern district of Alabama enumerated by Henry Bass; 1 male 5 to 10; 1 male 20 to 30; 2 females under 5;1 female 20 to 30.Likely entry for this John Carr is the second.
1840 Jackson County, AL census.No. 4, 7th entry of the Northern District.His entry shows two males 15 to 20, one male 70 to 80.Females one 20 to 30,one female 60 to 70.This is probably not this John Carr, but John Carr the elder.I cannot find another John Carr entry that fits our John Carr's age.
1860 Saline County Illinois entry Stonefort Post Office. Township 10 Range 5 East, page 289 He was living in a household headed by John Abner Spence.John Carr's occupation was listed as farmer, place of birth was SC.Age entry is not easy to read--could be 61.Head of the house John A. Spence was born in NC in 1828, wife was born in TN, two children were born in Alabama. The wife was Nancy Carr Spence--John's daughter from Alabama.The Spence couple lived next door to John and Nancy Carr in Jackson County, AL.The Spence's were married in Franklin County, TN.
I cannot find John Carr in any census beyond 1860.
Hugh and Louisa Carr are listed in the 1850 Jackson County, AL census with twins. Hugh and Louisa also lived next door to Hugh's aunt Bethena. In 1860 they were listed in the 1860 Coffee County, TN census.The twins were gone, but they had since had other children. Hugh is a child of John and Nancy.
4-13-2004--In 1850 Jackson County census (Terry) or (Jerry) Spence and Amy Spence live next door to John Carr family. Amy shows a location of birth as SC. Age of Amy 40; age of John 47; age of (Jerry) 28. Jerry's location of birth is unknown.This lady is possibly listed in the 1860 Jackson County census under the name Anna.Age of 38.
7-7-2004--I just found a record of a marriage in Greene County, Georgia between Elisha Carr and Nancy Taylor on February 16, 1832. Must look into this.
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Children of John Carr and Nancy Taylor are:
+Hugh Carr, b. December 1824, Jackson County, Alabama, d. October 25, 1900, Scott County, Indiana.
+Nancy Carr, b. May 1830, Alabama, d. Bet. 1900 - 1910, Illinois.
+George Washington Carr, b. Abt. 1836, Jackson County, Alabama, d. November 23, 1863, Washington General Hospital Memphis , TN.
+Charlotte Carr, b. June 15, 1838, Jackson County, Alabama, d. January 31, 1920, Ft. Madison, Lee County, Iowa.
+Elihu J. Carr, b. Abt. 1847, Alabama.
Bethna Carr, b. Abt. 1848.
James A Carr to Margaret Smart March 31, 1853.http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/jackson/vitals/marriages/marr1851s.txt
Sarah J. Carr to Albert ProvinceFebruary 16, 1853 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/jackson/vitals/marriages/marr1851s.txt
9-7-2004--Interesting question is whether the two Care families listed in the 1850 Jackson County census are in any way related to our John Carr.One is John W. age of 78 born in VA with a wife named Armis born in SC;the other is Claborn who also was born in VA.
Cindy Swagler sent me a note indicating that John Carr the elder was Justice of the Peace in Jackson County, AL from 1820-1822.Lived at Sauta, original county seat.
Checked IRAD holdings in Saline County for a probate record.They found none.
11-3-2004---I found a deed of trust record for Jackson County. Transfer from Thomas Clark to C. Carr.(possibly Claiborn).Witness James Carr.Dated 9-9-1831.
Also a note that C. Carr died 8-18-1872.Same date as other records for Claborn Carr's death.
11-11-2004--John Carr family was located in the 1840 Jackson County, AL census, roll 7 page 58.At this time the household consisted of three males and seven females.They would have been Hugh, George Washington, John; Nancy, Charlotte, and Nancy.I have no idea who the other 4 daughters were.Two were in the fifteen to twenty age range. In 1850, they were nowhere to be found.Also in 1830, there were no females of this age range.
The 1840 census indicates that there were 6 female children in this family.
Based on the information in the 1840 Jackson County census, I now suspect that the Martha Carr in the Lucinda Dent family which was living just a few doors away from the Carrs was born a Carr.What she was doing in the Dent household, I don't know.This assumption would explain the two females in 1840 who were in the 10 to 15 age range.One would be Nancy, the other would be Martha.Charlotte would be one in the under 5 age range, and Sarah would have been one in the 5 to 10 age range.
12-17-2004--No divorce record exists either in Williamson or Saline county.I have to assume now that there was no divorce between John and Nancy Carr.
Carrs in Franklin TN in 1830 Albert and George.roll 176 page 59 and roll 176 page 58.Both in Franklin also in 1840.
12-6-2005--I have searched LDS microfilms for Saline County, IL probate records through 1868.There is no mention of John Carr or the Spence family.
12-23-2005--I suspect now that George Carr of Franklin County, TN, previously of Pendleton County, SC and Wilkes/Elbert Counties, GA is a relation of John Carr.There is a land transaction between George and Judith Carr and Cornelious Keith in Pendleton.Also a land transaction between George/Judith Carr and White during the 1780s in Wilkes/Elbert, GA.George Carr/Kerr born in NJ, later in life moved to Franklin, Cooper and Morgan counties in MO.
2-3-2007--To Robert Schneider,I have the three state census abstacts in a
bound soft cover book by Lee and Foss.
In 1855, Mr. G.W. Keith appears with 3 males under 10, one bet. 30-40
(presumablyhimself), one female under 10, one female bet. 10-20, one
female bet 20-30 (presumably the wife).
Mr. John Carr does not appear until 1865
Neither appears in 1845
6-10-2007--John Carr appears in an index of soldiers who participated in the Cherokee Removal War.He was a member of Gover's Company, Norwood's Battalion, from Jackson County, AL.
10-16-2007--I received the land bounty warrant for John Carr. It appears that he moved to Carroll County AR at least as early as Feb., 1853.
12-03-2007--John Carr also served in the Florida War.He was a private in Coffey's Company of Cawlfield's Battalion of Alabama Mounted Volunteers.He served in that unit with George W. Keith.
8-11-09---"A Confederate soldier wrote, while making his way to the battle of
Near our post there were two small farm-houses about half a mile
apart. In one, a double cabin of hewn logs, there lived three ladies—a
widowed mother, a married and an unmarried daughter. The husband of
the daughter was away in our army, and these women unaided had
cultivated a small field of several acres in corn. As it was all they
had to live on, we took what we needed from another farm owned by an
able-bodied man who had managed to stay at home. Within two weeks the
battle of Chickamauga had been fought, and the next day I rode by this
spot. Where the field of corn which we would not touch had stood there
was not a stalk left, not even a fence-rail. The trodden ground was
checkered with the charred embers of camp-fires where the tents of the
Federal infantry had stood in rows, and nothing but the chimneys
remained to tell where stood the log house which had sheltered those
three lone women.
After the battle and after being captured, the solder wrote
On October 5th we started by wagon for Stevenson, Alabama, where we spent
several days in a stockade. Our route lay through miles of burned wagons and
fully a thousand dead mules
One soldier estimated that between Chattanooga and Bridgeport, Alabama there
were ten thousand dead animals by the sides of the road, after the battle"
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from Richard Matthews in Jackson County, AL genealogy group.
Children of John Carr and Nancy Taylor are:
- +Hugh Carr, b. December 24, 1822, Jackson County, Alabama, d. October 22, 1900, Thomastown, Finly Township, Scott County, Indiana.
- Martha Carr, b. 1827, Jackson County, Alabama.
- +Nancy Carr, b. May 1830, Jackson County, Alabama1, d. April 08, 1913, Stonefort, Saline County, Illinois2.
- Daughter1 Carr, b. Bet. 1830 - 1835, Jackson County, Alabama.
- Daughter2 Carr, b. Bet. 1830 - 1835, Jackson County, Alabama.
- Daughter3 Carr, b. Bet. 1835 - 1840, Jackson County, Alabama.
- +George W. Carr, b. Abt. 1836, Jackson County, Alabama, d. November 23, 1863, Washington General Hospital Memphis , TN.
- +Charlotte Mary Carr, b. June 15, 1838, Jackson County, Alabama, d. January 31, 1920, Ft. Madison, Lee County, Iowa.
- +Elihu J. Carr, b. Abt. 1847, Jackson County, Alabama, d. November 19, 1881, Stone County, Missouri.
- Bethna Carr, b. Abt. 1848, Jackson County, Alabama.