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Capt. John Van Cleave (b. 26 Apr 1736, d. 12 May 1812)John Van Cleave (son of Aaron O. Van Cleave and Rachel Schenck) was born 26 Apr 1736 in Port Richmond, Staten Island, New York, and died 12 May 1812 in Jefferson County, Indiana.He married (1) Mary Shepherd on 1760 in in Rowan County, NC, daughter of Thomas Shepherd and Elizabeth Van Meter.He married (2) Rachel Demaree-Ryker on 1782.
Notes for John Van Cleave:
. John VAN CLEEF (96) was born in 1739 in Monmouth County, NJ.(95) He was bornon 15 Nov 1739 in New Brunswick, NJ.(295) (98) He resided about 1779 in KY.(21)went with Squire Boone He died on 27 Jul 1810 in Jefferson Co, IN. (295) He died on 12 May 1812. (93) He died on 28 May 1812 in Jefferson County, IN. (95) ord. 5/12/1812
lived for a while at Bryant's Station, Kentucky
settled with brothers on Bullskin Creek, Shelby County, KY
He was married to Rachel DEMAREE after 15 Sep 1781.(93) He was married to Rachel DEMAREE in Rowan Co, NC.Rachel DEMAREE(96) was born on 9 Jan 1742/43. She was baptised on 9 Jan 1743 in Schraalenburgh, Bergen County, NJ. (93) She was born on 19 Nov 1743 in New York, New York/bpt 4-1-1744 Hampton, Bucks, , PA.(95) She died in 1814.(95)
He was married to Mary SHEPHERD in 1760 in Rowan Co, NC.(98) He was married to Mary SHEPHERD in 1761 in Rowan County, NC. (95)(3) Mary SHEPHERD(96) was born about 1739. She died on 13 Sep 1781 in killed by Indians, , Jefferson County, KY. (95) She died on 14 Sep 1781. (3) She died in 1782 in on trail from Bryant's Station to Booesboro, KY by Indians.(98) She has reference number 36715. John VAN CLEEF and Mary SHEPHERD had the following children:
+271 i. Rachel VAN CLEEF.
+272 ii. John, Jr. VAN CLEAVE.
273 iii. Mary Leah VAN CLEAVE was born in1767 in Rowan County, NC. (95)
+274 iv. Aaron VAN CLEAVE.
+275 v. BenjaminVAN CLEAVE.
+276 vi. Elizabeth VAN CLEAVE.
277 vii. Nancy VAN CLEAVE(96) was born on 14 Mar 1780 in Jefferson County, KY.(95) She was born about 1781 in Fort Boonesboro, KY. She died on 13 Sep 1781 in Jefferson County, KY.(95) She died in 1782 in carried away by Indians. Nancy and Sally were twins
Nancy was carried away by the Indians and never seen again
278 viii. Sarah 'Sally' VAN CLEAVE was born on 14 Mar 1780 in Jefferson County, KY.(95) She died in Dec 1830 in Henry County, KY.(95)
+279 ix. Leah VAN CLEAVE.
280 x. Polly VAN CLEAVE(96) was born after 1760.
281 xi. Sally VAN CLEAVE(96) was born about 1781in Fort Boonesboro, KY. Nancy and Sally were twins
He was married to RachelRYKER about 1783 in Shelby Co, KY.(98) Rachel RYKER (96) was born between 1739and 1763.BIOGRAPHY: The following extract from a Kentucky paper on the same subject is also given.
AN OLD COLONY WHO SETTLED NEAR PLEASUREVILLE AND PURCHASED LAND FROM SQUIRE BOONE. [Eminence Constitutionalist.]
While this section of Kentucky was all forest and inhabited by Indiana, the "Low Dutch colony" came and locatedon land now is and around where Pleasureville is now situated. The land was then owned by Squire Boone, brother of Daniel Boone, the famous pioneer. The colony purchased about 10,000 acres in 1774, and it is as remarkable as true that some descendents of this colony now reside on a portion of the original purchase. The company had a trustee whose duty it was to look after all the estate, as the thirty or more settlers with their families resided in a fort built of logsand stones. The hostility of the Indians forced the "Low Dutch Colony" to remove to Mercer and Clark Counties in a short while, but they returned in 1786. The Bantas, Bergins and Shucks still own the land of their ancestors, together with many old relics and papers which they value very highly. Papers show that thirty-four lots of land were purchased by the company, varying in size from two hundred acres and upward, which was paid for in pounds, shillings and pence. The following is the number of each lot, purchaser, and price paid:
Posted by Richard Lawrence, Date: November 11, 2002 at 14:33:51 Post #478
Fellow Van Cleef-Van Cleve-Van Cleave family researchers & cousins,
The following comments/stories about our Van Cleave family, including excerpts from story of attack on Bryant's Station, are from: THE VAN CLEAVE FAMILY THE McMULLEN FAMILY THE TAYLOR FAMILY, compiled by Errett Van Cleave, San Francisco, CA, 1946; from notes left by his Uncle James Wm Van Cleave of Brown's Valley (near Crawfordsville), Montgomery, IN (who apparently relied heavily on "the Elders" Uncle Jonathan & Aunt Betsy Van Cleave & Uncle Matthius Mount Van Cleave).
I have presented these excerpts as they were told by "the Elders", and compiled by Errett Van Cleave, just as they were written, in most instances, even though they contain some expressions of a sensitve nature. I did avoid using some terms which I determined may be considered more offensive than sensitive, and, at the very least, considered poitically incorrect in this present day.
Page 1: "The early history of the Van Cleave family lies in much obscurity. From the traditions of the Elders we learn that the progenitor of the family in America came from Holland some six or seven generations ago. His name was Aaron, and from him sprang all the families of Van Cleave in America. Aaron seems to have come to America some two or three generations before the Revolutionary War."
"Aaron, the elder, and a brother probably named John [Jan] came over. The rest of the family remained in Holland where the older brother would inherit the estate of their father. The younger sons, seeing that they would be left penniless, concluded to emigrate to the New World, then much talked of. We know not whether the elder brother set his younger brothers adrift or not; but it seems that way, at least they seem to have had a falling out and left the country never to return. It is said that the elder brother never married, so the estate is there yet, the family never claiming it. The occupation of the younger brothers seem to have been sailors and fishermen. Younger brothers often followed those occupations. Those were a stout, hardy race of people. They first came to Monmouth, New Jersey where they settled."
Page 17: APPENDIX by Errett; "Uncle James starts his narrative with Aaron Van Cleave, Sr. as the original emigrant and seems to be confused by others of the same name which he cannot identify. As a matter of fact old Aaron, Sr. was the son of Isabrant Van Cleef and the grandson of Jan (John) Van Cleef who came to the New World from Holland. Aaron Sr. left his brothers and cousins in Long Island and the coast of New Jersey and moved to Rowen [sic] County, North Carolina, at the forks of the Yadkin River, about 1750. He became a neighbor of Squire Boone, Sr., the father of Daniel Boone and Squire Boone, Jr., and Aaron's daughter Jane, married Squire Boone, Jr. There are records in the Court House at Salisbury, North Carolina of the family in that County."
Page 3: "Sometime during the first half of the Revolutionary War [1776-1779] the five Van Cleave brothers, Aaron, Benjamin, John, Billy, Ralph and their sister Jane emigrated to the territory of Kentucky. This was a vast wilderness inhabited by ... Indians and wild beasts, the prowling panther, the wild cat and the catamount, huge buffaloe, deer and elk, as well as bear. It was the perfect paradise for the hunter and those fond of adventure. ... Their mode [of] travel is not given but it is evident that they traveled on horseback, carrying their bedding on pack horses, probably some road [sic] and some walked part of the time. It was a long journey, crossing the mountains into the territory of Kentucky. They camped at night along the trail. There is but one incident given during the entire trip. One morning as the women were getting breakfast by the campfire, a deer dashed up and stood near the fire, so, Aaron, son of Benjamin snatched up his brother's (Sammy) 'little shot gun' and taking a rest between the forks of a small tree, shot the deer. The distance was short and it fell dead. This is the only incident remembered of the entire journey."
"It is not known at what time the Van cleaves arrived in Kentucky, but they had a long and tiresome journey over the mountains, through the valleys and the dark woods ... but at last they arrived at [Ft] Boonesboro, their journey's end, and went to live with Daniel Boone. He had erected a fort there on the South bank of the Kentucky River."
"When once established in Kentucky the Van Cleaves ... helped clear the land and planted the fields in corn for their subsistence. ... It is also related that they were at [Ft] Boonesboro at the time that [Daniel] Boone's and [?] Callaway's daughters were captured by the Indians ..."
Page 4: "During the troublesome times in Kentucky, Squire Boone, a brother of Daniel erected a station [Squire Boone's Station] near Shelbyville and dwelt there with a party of hardy pioneers. ... in April 1781 they were alarmed by the appearence of Indians in the vicinity, so they moved to a settlement on Bear's Creek and while going there were attacked by Indians and defeated with considerable loss."
Page 5: "The Vancleaves were living at Bryant's Station, at least two of the brothers were, Benjamin and John, who evidently had been there for some time, and were living there at the time of the siege, so they said, and took part in the defense against the Indians. They used to tell of that fearful time. Save for their personal experiences it was like the history gives of the attack."
"Detachments of Indians came in advance of the main army. Captain Estill, a brave man was sent out against them. He encountered an equal number of Indians and a sharp attack ensued, resulting in the death of Estill and half of his men. The Indian chief was also killed in the fight. The battle lasted two hours. The [Indian] army destined to the conquest of Kentucky, assembled at Chillicothe early in August. A detachment from Detroit reinforced them. Simon Girty made a speech to them enlarging on the ingratitude of the 'long knives' in rebelling against their 'Great Father', the Brittish King, across the waters. He described in flowing terms the fertility of Kentucky exhorting them to recover it from a group of 'long knives' before they became too strong for them. Six hundred warriors, the flower of the Northwestern tribes made what they knew to be their last effort to drive the settlers from their fertile hunting grounds. Various parties preceded the main body, appearing in different places, creating confusion in the minds of the settlers in regard to the place where the blow would fall. An attack on Holt's Station resulted in two boys taken prisoners. The Indians, twenty in number, were pursued by Captain Holden with seventeen men and he was defeated near Blue Licks, the fatal spot for the settlers, and obliged to retreat with the loss of four men."
"The news of the disaster reached Bryant's Station, situated on the Elk Horn near the road from Lexington to Maysville, on the 14 of August. Men were preparing to march to the assistance of Holt's Station (see life of Boone). Some had been up all night getting ready for an early start. Had the Indians arrived only a few hours later they would have found the fort occupied only by old men, women and children, who could not have successfully resisted their attack. 'The supreme influence of fortune in war was never more strikingly displayed.' The Indians could hear the bustle of preparations and see lights from the blockhouse and cabins during the night. All continued tranquil and Girty silently concerted the plan of attack. The Indians had advanced with secrecy and celebrity peculiar to themselves. Through the woods, without giving the slightest indication of their approach, on the night of August 14th, 1781. They appeared before Bryant's Station as suddenly as if they had arisen from the earth (see McClung's History), and surrounded it from all sides and awaited the dawn of day. At the break of day, August 15th, the garrison which consisted of some forty to fifty men in arms, were preparing to open the gate and march off, as already mentioned, when they were alarmed by a furious discharge of rifles, accompainied by yells and screams they struck terror into the heart of the women and children and even startled the men. All ran hastily to the picketing and beheld a small body of Indains exposed to open view, running and yelling and making the most furious gestures. The appearence was so unusual and different from their usual manner of fighting that some of the more wary and experienced of the garrison instantly pronounced it a decoy party and restrained the young men from sallying out and attacking them, and some were strongly disposed to do [so]. The opposite side of the fort was instantly manned and several breaches in the picketing were rapidly repaired."
"The garrison was supplied with water from a spring some distance from the fort on the Northwest side, a great common error of most of the stations, which in a closed in continued siege suffered dreadfully for water. The most experienced felt confident that a powerful party was in ambush near the spring, but at the same time they reasoned that the Indians would not unmask themselves until the firing from the opposite side of the fort was returned with such warmth as to induce the belief that the feint had succeeded. Acting upon this impression and yeilding to the urgent need for water, they summoned [page 6] all the women, without exception, and explained to them their circumstaces in which they were placed and the improbability that any injury would be offered them until the firing had been returned from the opposite side of the fort. They urged them to go in a body to the spring and each bring up a bucket full of water. Some of the women, as was natural, had no relish for the undertaking and asked why the men did not bring up the water, as well as themselves, that they were not bullet proof and that the Indians made no distinction between male and female. To this was answered that the women were in the habit of bringing the water every morning to the fort and that if the Indians saw them engaged as usual it would induce them to the belief that their ambuscade was undiscovered. The Indians would not unmask themselves for the sake of firing on a few women, when they hoped by remaining concealed for a few minutes longer, to obtain complete possesion of the fort. That if the men should go down to the spring the Indians would immediately suspect that something was wrong and would depair of succeeding by ambuscade and could instantly rush upon them, follow them into the fort or shoot them down at the spring."
"The decision was soon made. A few of the boldest women declared their readiness to brave the danger and the younger and more timid rallying in the rear of these veterans marched down to the spring and a body within point blank shot distance of more than five hundred Indian warriors. Some of the girls could not help betraying symtoms of terror, but the the older women, in general, moved with a steadiness and composure which completely deceived the Indians. Not a shot was fired. The party was permitted to fill their buckets, one after another, without interuption. Although their steps became quicker on their return, and near the gate of the fort degenerated into a rather unmilitary celebrity attended with some crowding in passing the gate, yet not more than a little of the water spilt, and the eyes of the youngest had not dilated to more than twice their usual size."
"At the head of the procession of women going to the spring marched Ruth [Munson] Van Cleave, wife of Benjamin [Van Cleave], and daughters Rachel and Jane were said to be along, but I think Rachel was too young, being only ten years old. Also Mary [Shepherd Van Cleave], the wife of John Van Cleave, brother of Benjamin, marched with them and probably her eldest daughters, Polly (or Mary) and Elizabeth. These women used to tell how they all marched [out] of the fort to get water at the spring. They marched at the head of the procession of women and when they arrived at the spring and were dipping water they could see Indians all about. They were fearful for their lives, but did not exhibit fear lest the Indians discover that they knew they were there. They finally all got back to the fort without giving any alarm to the Indians. Ruth and Mary and their daughters, as well as the other noble women were heroines of the day, and their deed of daring has been told in story and song."
"Being amply supplied with water the garrison sent out thirteen young men to attack the decoy party with orders to fire with great rapidity and make as much noise as possible, but not to pursue the enemy far. The rest of the garrison took post on the opposite side of the fort, cocked their guns and stood in readiness to receive the ambuscade party as it unmasked. The firing of the light party on the Lexington road was soon heard and quickly became sharp and serious, gradually becoming more distant. Instantly Girty sprang up at the head of his five hundred warriors and rushed rapidly upon the western gates, ready to force his way over the undefended palisades. Into this immense mass of dusty bodies the garrison poured several rounds of rifle balls with destruuctive effect. The consturnation [sic] of the Indians may be imagined. With wild cries they dispersed and in two minutes not an Indian was to be seen. At the same time the party that had sallied out on the Lexington road came running into the fort at the opposite gate in high spirits, and laughing hardily at the success of their manuver. A regular attack in the usual maner then commenced without much effect on either side until ..."
Bottom of page 6-page 13: A lengthy description of the siege on Bryant's Station [which must have lasted about a month], including serveral battles with reinforcements coming into the fort from all directions & how several members of the Van Cleave family, including the women, did whatever was neccessary to help defend the fort during that long siege.
Page 14: "Now that the battle was over and the Indians had fled, 'Big John' Van Cleave [son of John-AIJ] went out to the stump where he shot at the Indian standing upon it to see the result of his long shot. John found no Indian at the stump where he had seen him fall, for the Indians had borne the body away and tried to hide the evidence of his death by killing a hog and dragging it around the stump to obliterate all trace of the dead Indian. Indian tracks were thick about the stump. John searched down around the roots and found a silver half-moon with a short buckstring attached to it. The upper end had been cut off with a rifle ball, for the color of lead was still upon it. He knew then that this was what had glittered on the Indian's breast. John kept the silver [half-]moon the rest of his life but it is not known what became of it. John said that during the siege of the fort they became very hungry for the garrison had not enough time to gather provisions before the siege. He was so hungry that he gathered up grains of corn from the cow dung, washed, parched and ate them with relish [pleasure]."
Page 14 [cont] "Tragedy in the Woods."
"Thus far the Van Cleaves had fared very well. They had come out of the fight without a scratch, save the horror of the siege which was common to all. Now occured one of the saddest pages of their history. John Van Cleave and his wife [Mary Shepherd Van Cleave] were at Bryant's Station during the siege, but after the Indians were supposed to have left the country they concluded that [Ft] Boonesboro was a safer place to be than Bryant's Station and started to the former place, on foot, it seems. Aunt Betsy Van Cleave [dau of Aaron-John-AIJ], wife of [Uncle] Jonathan [Van Cleave, son of Ralph-Benj-AIJ], told of this. Said that her grandfather, John, and family were going from Bryant's Station to [Ft] Boonesboro. Her grandmother, Mary, was carrying one of the twins [Nancy, 18 mos.] and [her eldest dau] Aunt Polly was carrying the other [Sally]. The boys were trudging along. In the maze of the great forrest they were attacked by a preditory band of Indians concealed in ambush. Mary, the wife of John was killed [14th Sept 1781] and the child carried away. [Aunt] Polly was carrying one of the twins, Sally, when she was taken prisoner but she still cared for the child. It began to cry and fret. The Indians made signs for her to quiet the child but she did not understand them. So they opened her dress bosom and made signs for her to give it suck, but not succeeding they were about to kill the child. Just at this time a party of horsemen from [Ft] Boonseboro made a dash on the Indians and drove them away and rescued the prisoners. Nancy, the favorite sister of [Aunt Betsy's father] Aaron, was carried away by the Indians. They saw her no more, never learned her fate but knew it was sad enough."
"The boys made their escape following the horsemen. [Big] John was a fleshy boy and couldn't run as fast as Aaron and Benjamin, so he was left behind. He made his escape by hiding in a hollow log and stayed there all night. He was found the next morning by scouts that went out to look for the dead and missing. John came out of the hollow log rejoicing to find friends. Aaron and Benjamin were slim and fleet of foot so they ran after the horsemen and kept up pretty well. When they came to the river the horsemen could not take them up, so they caught the horses by the tail and swam across in that manner. After crossing the river they hurried along on foot as fast as they could, encumbered as they were with wet buckskin garments. Their pantaloons were water soaked and heavy. Soon they began to drag under foot and retarded their progress. One of the boys rolled his pants up and they were all right [sic] when they got dry, but the other boy cut his off at the bottom and when they dried they were too short and nearly ruined. One account says that one of the boys took his pants off and through [sic] them away and never found them again and that there were gold buttons on the pants (likely brass). This statement was made by Mrs. Hinkle, a Van Cleave. What was left of the family got together again in [Ft] Boonesboro. Mary, the wife of John, was found and buried. After these bloody and stirring scenes there was a fear of insecurity among the settlers of Kentucky, until Clark revived the spirit of chivalry once more. The Van Cleaves took some part in these expeditions and when peace was restored the people went to work opening up farms raising crops amd building homes."
In all above instances, words inside the brackets [ ] are from me, Richard Lawson, and the initials AIJ = Aaron-Isabrandt-Jan. Most, if not all, words inside the parenthesis ( ) are from Errett Van Cleave, but some could possibly be from his Uncle James Wm Van Cleave. I have proof read this post, several times, and hope that I have not made to many typing errors of my own. This post concludes this series of posts to the Van Cleave fam gen forum, but I hope to be able to continue to correspond with many of you in genforum or by e-mail at: firstname.lastname@example.org about other stories/questions of our Van Cleave family,
Married Mary Shepherd. Fought in Revolutionary War.
More About John Van Cleave:
Date born 2: 1739, New Brunswick, Monmouth County, New Jersey/New Brunswick, Middlesex Co., NJ.
Burial: 1812, Ryker Ridge Cem..
Died 2: 11 May 1812, Jefferson Co., Indiana.
Military service: Soldiers of the American Revolution Monmouth and Ocean Counties,NJ.
Residence: Maidenhead, Hunterdon County, New Jersey.
More About John Van Cleave and Mary Shepherd:
Marriage: 1760, in Rowan County, NC.
More About John Van Cleave and Rachel Demaree-Ryker:
Children of John Van Cleave and Mary Shepherd are:
- Rachel Van Cleef, b. 25 Oct 1762, Rowan County, NC, d. 26 Apr 1842.
- John Van Cleve, b. 18 Apr 1765, Rowan County, NC, d. 05 Sep 1848, Stampers Creek Tp, Orange Co., IN.
- +Aaron Van Cleave, b. 25 Mar 1769, Mocksville, Rowan County North Carolina, d. 24 Feb 1846, Browns Valley,Montgomery County, IN.
- Benjamin Van Cleave, b. 20 Jan 1771, in Rowan County, NC, d. 1840, Millersburg, Orange, IN.
- +Elizabeth Van Cleave, b. 1773, Yadkin Valley, Rowan Co, NC, d. 1834, Browns Valley, Montgomery County, IN.
- Nancy Van Cleave, b. 14 Mar 1780, Boone's Painted Station,Kentucky, d. 13 Sep 1781, in Jefferson County, KY.
- Sarah "Sally" Van Cleave, b. 14 Mar 1780, Boone's Painted Station,Kentucky, d. Dec 1830, in Henry County, KY.
- Mary Leah Van Cleave, b. 1767, Rowan County, NC, d. 04 Oct 1848.
Children of John Van Cleave and Rachel Demaree-Ryker are:
- Peter Van Cleave, b. 1785, Shelby Co., KY, d. Jun 1829, Jefferson County, Indiana.
- +David Van Cleave, b. 24 Mar 1787, Shelby County, Kentucky, d. 18 Nov 1852, Boone County, Indiana.