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View Tree for Baron Geoffrey (Gaufridus The Surety) de Say IIBaron Geoffrey (Gaufridus The Surety) de Say II (b. Abt. 1155, d. 19 Aug 1230)

Baron Geoffrey (Gaufridus The Surety) de Say II (son of Baron Geoffrey de Say I and Beatrix de Mandeville) was born Abt. 1155 in Essex, Eng, and died 19 Aug 1230. He married Alice de Chesney.

 Includes NotesNotes for Baron Geoffrey (Gaufridus The Surety) de Say II:
He married Alice de Chesney (Cheyney), born ABT 1165 in Newtimber, Sussex, daughter of John de Casinento/Chesney/de Quesnay (Cheyney) family. Geoffrey was one of the barons who opposed King John in 1215 which resulted in the Magna Charta. Geoffrey is listed as one of the 25 "Surety Barons" for the enforcement of the abrogated Magna Charta (all excommunicated by Pope Innocent). Of the 25 signatories, 16 died within 15 years.

Notes (Burke's Peerage): Geoffrey, born c1155; in 1210(?) was in Ireland with King John's Army, one of the barons (magnates rather than peers of Parliament) opposed to John and one of the 25 assigned to see that the Magna Charta was observed, pilgrim to Holy Land 1219; Married 1st Alice, daughter of John de Chesney and widow of Hugh de Periers; married 2nd in or after 1225 Margery (divorce12__), sister of William Briwere and widow of (a) ? de la Ferte and (b) Eudes de Dammertin (died 1225), and died in Poitou just Aug. 1230, leaving (presumably by his 1st wife) William, with a younger son (Geoffrey?).

Notes (Magna Charta Sureties):
Geoffrey de Say II, s & h of Geoffrey I, gr. S. William I, b. probably c1155, lord of West Greenwich, co. Kent, Magna Charta Surety, 1215, d. in Poitou shortly bef. 26 Aug. 1230, bur. Hosp. of St. Mary, Dover; m. (1) Alice, widow of Hugh de Periers, d. 1175, and daughter of John de Chesney, m (2) aft 1225, Marjorie, widow 1st of William de la Ferte, d. 1216, 2nd of Eudes de Dammartin, d. 1225, daughter and eventual coheir of William de Briwere, the elder, d. 1226, lord of Horsley, co. Derby. Geoffrey and Marjorie were divorced. She was living 1233, died 1237.


Children of Baron Geoffrey (Gaufridus The Surety) de Say II and Alice de Chesney are:
  1. +William (of Berling) Saye, b. 1206, England, Kent, West Greenwich, d. 12 Feb 1271.
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