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Ancestors of Martha Jo (Martha) Cross

Generation No. 14


      13376. II William Alexander, born Abt. 1567 in Scotland; died February 12, 1640 in Scotland. He married 13377. Janet Erskine Bef. 1590 in Scotland.

      13377. Janet Erskine, born in Scotland; died Unknown.

Notes for II William Alexander:
Born at Menstrie Castle, Clackmannanshire. Alexander moved to London, becoming knighted in 1609. He was Secretary of State for Scotland from 1626 until his death, and remained a firm Royalist, which naturally made him unpopular in Scotland. He was created Viscount of Stirling and Lord Alexander of Tullibody in 1630, Earl of Stirling, Viscount of Canada, and Lord Alexander of Tullibody (again) in 1633. He wrote several tragedies, including one entitled Julius Caesar, in 1607. He died bankrupt in London on 12 February 1640. Menstrie Castle still survives.
     
Children of William Alexander and Janet Erskine are:
  6688 i.   John Alexander, born 1590 in Scotland; died Unknown; married Cloe Vershoyle-greene in Ireland.
  ii.   III William Alexander, born 1592 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  iii.   Anthony Alexander, born 1594 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  iv.   Henry Alexander, born 1595 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  v.   Charles Alexander, born 1604 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  vi.   Jane Alexander, born 1606 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  vii.   Mary Alexander, born 1607 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  viii.   Ladowie Alexander, born 1609 in Scotland; died Unknown.
  ix.   James Alexander, born 1610 in Scotland; died Unknown.


      13408. I Robert Pollok, born Abt. 1559 in Scotland or possibly Northern Ireland; died Abt. 1625 in Northern Ireland, possibly Co. Derry. He was the son of 26816. II John Pollok and 26817. Janet Mure (Muir).

Notes for I Robert Pollok:
Known as Sir Robert Pollok I.
     
Children of I Robert Pollok are:
  i.   John Pollok, born Aft. 1544 in Scotland; died Aft. 1593 in Locherby or Lecherbie, Scotland; married (1) Maude Montgomery; born Aft. 1544 in Scotland; died Aft. 1593; married (2) Dorothea Stewart Aft. 1564; born Aft. 1544; died Unknown.
  Notes for John Pollok:
Known as John Pollok II. John was killed at the Conflict of Locherby (Battle of Lecherbie) in 1593, along with his kinsman, Lord Maxwell. They were fighting the forces of the Laird of Johnstone.

John was killed at the Conflict of Locherby (Battle of Lecherbie) in 1593, while assisting his kinsman, Lord Maxwell, against the Laird of John's Stone. From the (A.D. 1439) famous noble sprang the illustrious line of Pollok of the ilk..."Pollok of that ilk referring to the Pollok (later Pollock) line in Scotland.

  6704 ii.   II Robert Pollok, born Abt. 1597 in Northern Ireland, prob. Co. Derry; died Abt. 1640 in Northern Ireland, prob. Co. Derry.


      13424. II Thomas Taylor, born March 15, 1573 in Hadley, Middlesex, England; died 1618 in Hadley, Middlesex, England. He was the son of 26848. I Thomas Taylor and 26849. Elizabeth Burwell. He married 13425. Margaret Swinderby October 09, 1599 in England.

      13425. Margaret Swinderby, born Abt. 1578 in Copenhagen, Denmark; died Unknown in Carlisle, England. She was the daughter of 26850. Andrew Swinderby.
     
Child of Thomas Taylor and Margaret Swinderby is:
  6712 i.   John Taylor, born August 10, 1607 in Carlisle, England; died 1652 in Carlisle, England or Lancaster, VA; married Elizabeth LNU (Taylor) Abt. 1624 in England or VA.


      13440. William Knox, born 1510 in Silvyland, Lanark, Scotland; died Unknown. He was the son of 26880. II Uchter Knox and 26881. Jannet Semple. He married 13441. Margaret Flemming Abt. 1538 in Barrochan, Renfrew, Scotland.

      13441. Margaret Flemming, born 1517 in Barrochan, Renfrew, Scotland; died Unknown.
     
Children of William Knox and Margaret Flemming are:
  6720 i.   William Knox, born 1539 in Ranfurlie, Renfrew, Scotland; died Unknown; married Margaret Maxwell Abt. 1557 in Silvyland, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland.
  ii.   Uchter Knox, born 1542 in Silvieland, Lanark, Scotland; died Unknown.


      13460. Thomas Brooke, born Abt. 1505 in Leighton, , Cheshire, England; died Unknown. He married 13461. Elizabeth Starkey 1526 in Cheshire, England.

      13461. Elizabeth Starkey, born Abt. 1516 in Oulton, , Cheshire, England; died Unknown.
     
Child of Thomas Brooke and Elizabeth Starkey is:
  6730 i.   Basil Brooke, born Abt. 1535 in Of, Davenham, Cheshire, England; died 1633 in St Weburgh, , Dublin, Ireland; married Ann Leycester 1607 in Ireland.


      14208. II Henry Glascocke, born 1582 in Essex, England; died Abt. 1634 in Essex, England. He was the son of 28416. I Henry Glascocke and 28417. Grace Ennew. He married 14209. Margery Fitch Abt. 1609 in Essex, England.

      14209. Margery Fitch, born Abt. 1588 in Essex, England; died 1694 in Elizabeth City, VA.

Notes for II Henry Glascocke:
Robert Glascocke had a sister named Grace.


     
Children of Henry Glascocke and Margery Fitch are:
  7104 i.   I Thomas Glascocke, born June 06, 1613 in Moreton, Essex Co., England; died June 03, 1667 in Lancaster Co., VA; married Jane Juett June 17, 1634 in St. Mary's Whitechapel in the Co. of Middlesex, England.
  ii.   Edgar Glascocke, born Abt. 1619 in Essex, England; died Unknown.
  iii.   Richard Glascocke, born Abt. 1619 in Essex, England; died Unknown.


      14216. I William Downman, born Abt. 1590 in Plymouth (or Essex, Devonshire, England; died Unknown.

Notes for I William Downman:
There are two documents in the Library of Virginia:
# 24928a,b "William Downman of Plymouth England and Virginia, October 1608, and some of his descendants." 166 pages. author: Clarissa W. Fleming
# 24928c "Downman Family genealogical chart"
Description: "Descendants of William Downman (d 1653) who emigrated in 1608 from Plymouth England and settled in Lancaster Co. VA."
(Courtesy of Ted Kaufman)

From: "English America, the Voyages, Vessels, People and Places"
Courtesy of Thomas Langford.

The Mary & Margaret, 1608
Arrivals in the "Second Supply"
Voyages are listed at ship name on Ship List
Captain Christopher Newport, Commander
(Previously commander of the Susan Constant in 1607
and of the John & Francis in 1607-1608.)
Crew: about 153
Passengers listed in the Virginia Musters of 1624/5:
60 passengers listed by name out of total of about 70.
Namontack (Powhatan's "son" who went to England on
the John & Francis in April, returning home.)

Abbay, Thomas Gentleman
Beadle, Gabriel Gentleman
Beadle, John (listed as Iohn) Gentleman
Bell, Henry Tradesman*
Bradley, Thomas Tradesman*
Burras (Laydon), Anne Maid of Mrs. Forrest
Listed in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5, (age 30) as on the Mary Margett
in 1608. Married to John Laydon about 2 months after her arrival.
Burras, John (listed as Iohn) Tradesman*
Burton, George Gentleman
Clarke, John (listed as Iohn) Tradesman*
Collings, Henry Gentleman
Croshaw, Raleigh (or Crawshaw) Gentleman
Listed in Virginia Muster, February 16, 1623/4.
His wife arrived on the Bona Nova, 1620.
Received Virginia Patent4,5 as "Ancient Planter".
Cuderington, John (listed as Iohn) Gentleman
Dauxe, John (listed as Iohn) Gentleman
David ap Hugh (listed as Dauid) Tradesman*
Dawse, Thomas Laborer
Dowman, William Gentleman
Ellis, David Tradesman*
Listed in Virginia Muster, January 20-30, 1624/5, as on the Mary Margrett,
no date given. His wife, Margrett, arrived on the Margrett & John.
Floud Laborer
Forrest, Mistresse (Mrs. Forrest)
Forrest, Thomas Gentleman
Fox, Thomas Laborer
Gibson, Thomas Tradesman*
Graves, Thomas (listed as Graues) Gentleman
Listed as Capt. (Captain) in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5, as on
the Mary & Margrett in 1607, but correct date would have been 1608.
Hancock, Nicholas Laborer
Hardwyn Laborer
Harrison, Harmon Gentleman
Hilliard (boy)
Hoult, John (listed as Iohn) Gentleman
Hunt, Master Gentleman
Lavander, Thomas Tradesman*
Leigh, Henry Gentleman
Lowick, Michael Gentleman
Mallard, Thomas Laborer
Maxes, Thomas Gentleman
Milman (boy)
Morley Laborer
Norton, Thomas Gentleman
Oconor, Dionis Tradesman*
Phelps, Thomas Tradesman*
Philpot, Henry Gentleman
Powell, Master Tradesman*
Prat, John (listed as Iohn) Tradesman*
Rose Laborer
Russell, John (listed as Iohn) Gentleman
Russell, William Gentleman
Sambage, William Gentleman
Scot Laborer
Shortridge, Jeffrey (listed as Ieffrey) Tradesman*
Tayler, William Laborer
(Taylor, Richard, age 50, listed in Virginia Muster, January 24, 1624/5,
as on the Mary Margett, September, 1608. His wife, Dorothy,
arrived on the London Marchannt in May, 1620.)
Tucker, Daniel Gentleman
Waldo, Captaine Richard Appointed to be one of the Councel
Walker Laborer
West, Master Francis (listed as VVest) Brother to the Lord Le VVarre (De la Ware)
Listed in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5, (age 36) as on the
Mary Ann Margett in 1610.
Williams Laborer
Winne, Captaine Peter Appointed to be one of the Councel
Winne, Hugh Tradesman*
Wolleston, Hugh Gentleman
Yarington, George Gentleman
8 Dutch (actually German) men and Poles, names not listed, and 2 others not listed.
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* Artisons, as noted in source
Cargo: "Elizabethan-style bed as a gift for Powhatan"


From "Virginia Genealogies", by Rev. Horace Edwin Hayden, pg. 75-76, under the line of Margaret Ball and Rawleigh Downman:
"The following is from a very old paper found among the Ball records in the possession of Miss J. R. D. It may be mere tradition:
'When the Saxtons and the Danes invaded England, there was three families joined themselves together and spent a great part of their fortunes in raising what force they could to defend their country and they eventually gained the victory when their battle was over ye King gave Each family A Coat of arms the first had three bleeding hearts ye second had three sheaves of wheat the third had hart stuck with two darts my father's great grandfather gave Great assistance to the building up of a Catherdral Church in plemoth his name was set in the wall. William Downman a Great rememberer of the poor. But I beleave that may be down by this time my Grand father went to perbadus (Barbadoes) and lived at a place called Spikeres (?) my father was left his Estate a youth having more money than he had wit to keep at that time there was some that had run themselves in debt and persuaded him to be their security which he readily agreed to and for a large sum of money not considering the ill Consequences that attended it so many had done that.'
To this paper another hand has added: 'Rawleigh Downman, the young son, not being so provided as his father, ran through the large part of his estate, and moved to Bermuda thence to Lanc'r Co., VA, 1653 He m. _____ Travers, and having somewhat repaired his fortune, died 1682, leaving a son, Rawleigh , who married Margaret Ball, and a daughter, Mrs. Pinchard'.
Mr. Rawleigh Downman's part of Mr. Pinckhard's estate was two negroes and articles valued at 103 pounds.16.8. I find nothing to confirm this tradition as to the arms, or the church at Plymouth. Later research may discover the correctness of the tradition.
The name Downman early appears in VA. Among 'the living', Feb 16, 1623 at Elizabeth City were John Douneman and Elizabeth Douneman. (Col. Rec. #52). This John was Burgess from E(lizabeth) City, Oct 16, 1629. 'When a boy he came to VA, 1611, married a maid sent out in 1621 in the Warwich' ( VA Car. 74). William Downman, Gent, was among the second supply to VA 1608 (Arber's Smith 129). William Downman, Nov 15, 1652, bought of Ben Powell a patent of 100 a(cres) in Corotoman, called 'Harwood' (L. 216). The estate of William Downman and Dorothy Downman was appraised by Thomas Hacket and Edwin Conniway (Conway) 165-.
The name Rawleigh is so frequent in this line that in the absence of dates it is impossible to locate those who bear it. 'I have heard my father say that there were three Rawleigh Ds. living at one time in the same neighborhood in what is now Richmond Co. They were all cousins and cousins of my Grandfather Rawleigh (J.R.D.)'. It is probable that I, Rawleigh D., of Lancaster Co., VA of 1653, who married _____ Travers had ii. Margaret, who married c. 1675 Capt. William Ball, and iii. Rawleigh who had iv. Rawleigh m. c. 1715 Margaret Ball, his cousin, supra, v. Eliza,, who married Thomas Pinchard, below, and vi. William, executor of his brother Rawleigh, of whom the above paper makes no mention. This William may have been father of Travers Downman (I.) Dec 23, 1747, Grace Ball (pg. 67), and II, Dec. 30, 1764, Ann Heath Conway (Conway 14); also of William who married Agnes, dau. of Major Field Archer, of Chesterfield (Critic ii.34). Robert Downman, M.D., grad. Univ. Edinburgh 1798; thesis, 'De Puerperam peritonitide,' 2 plates, p. 48, 1798.
A Downman whose name does not appear had ----.
I. William, who had the following children:
i. Eliza, m ____Smyth of Auston, TX.;
ii. Sallie C. who m. _____ Brown and had 12 children. Of these, F. R. Brown of Littleton, VA wrote me May 13, 1889, 'My mother has been dead 18 months. I do not know anything of the family beyond my grandfather';
iii. Lucy.
II. Mildred m. Thomas Ball, whom I cannot place;
III. Elizabeth m. Maj. Stokley Towles.


After giving thought to the notes of J. R. D., in Rev. Hayden's book, and thinking she was talking about Plymouth, MA, and seeing the information from the Library ofVA, I came to realize that she was really talking about Plymouth, England. So I ran a search on Plymouth, England. Very interesting.

Plymouth is in the County of Devon, which is a maritime county in southwest England, and is bounded on the north by the Bristol Channel, on the east by Dorset and Somerset, on the south by the English Channel and the west by Cornwall.
Exeter is the county town. Plymouth is an English Channel port and has been an important seaport for over 500 years. Plymouth is located at the confluence of the Plym and Tamar Rivers at Plymouth Sound. Since its establishment during the early 1400s, Plymouth has been an important military institution. The Citadel, a stone fortress built in the late 1600s by Charles II, is still used by the military.

There is a Mayflower Monument at Plymouth, England, as well as one at Plymouth, Mass. There is also a plaque in Plymouth, England placed there in 1984, on the 400th anniversary of Sir Walter Raleigh's Colonies, which says:
"The Roanoke Colonies from Plymouth on 27th April 1584, Walter Raleigh sent Philip Amadas and Arthur Barlow to North America to Explore & Prepare for English Colonisation on 13th July. They Claimed Land in the Name of Queen Elizabeth Called Virginia in Her Honor. This Area is Now Known as North Carolina. In 1585 A Colony Under Gov. Ralph Lane Settled There On Roanoke Island Remaining a Year. In 1587 A Second Colony Under Gov. John White Established The 'Cittie of Ralegh' At the Same Site. This Settlement Known As Raleigh's 'Lost Colony' Disappeared Between 1587 & 1590."
I know I learned all of this while in school MANY years ago, but have forgotten it, and now I have reason to remember it.

Sir Walter Raleigh was a hero about the time the Downman's came here and that is probably why Rawleigh became a repeated family first name. Also, the Downman's grew tobacco traditionally. They accumulated their wealth on tobacco. One of the first Downman's lived in "Elizabeth Citte, VA. ... ". Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen, was the financial backer and primary supporter of Sir Walter Raleigh.

I re-read the notes, carefully. This time it said something different to me. "My father's great grandfather gave Great assistance to the building up of a Catherdral Church in plemoth his name was set in the wall, 'William Downman a Great rememberer of the poor'." He either helped restore it, or, following Henry VIII, helped change it over to Anglican, by removing all Roman Catholic icons and decor in order to make it an Anglican Cathedral. If the later is the case, he would have had to have been born before 1539.

There is one major Cathedral in Plymouth. It is Roman Catholic and was built in 1848. Too young, and not the right flavor. The only Anglican Cathedral in Devon is Exeter Cathedral, which is the seat of the Bishop of Exeter whose diocese includes Plymouth. It could easily be the right one as it is old enough, and it is the right order. It existed during the time of Henry VIII and the Reformation. Plymouth has a very old mother church which is called St. Andrews. It is a1200 year old, what's left of, Cathedral. The sad thing is that during the blitz, in World War II, the whole inside of this Cathedral was burned out. Basics are still there but if this is the Cathedral spoken of in the notes, then there is nothing left of the memorializing of William Downman. It is now Roman Catholic and, though it has never been restored, it has been patched together enough to still be a place of practice.

Another thing is, I worked with the message to figure who she (the writer) was speaking of: "my father's great-grandfather" (would have been her great-great-grandfather). She gives her explanation, in essence, of who she is: 1) my Grand father went to perbadus (Barbadoes) and lived at a place called Spikeres (?) .. 2) my father was left his Estate a youth having more money than he had wit to keep at that time there was some that had run themselves in debt and persuaded him to be their security which he readily agreed to and for a large sum of money not considering the ill Consequences that attended it so many had done that.'
To this paper another hand has added: 'Rawleigh Downman, the young son, not being so provided as his father, ran through the large part of his estate, and moved to Bermuda thence to Lanc'r Co., VA, 1653 He m. _____ Travers, and having somewhat repaired his fortune, died 1682, leaving a son, Rawleigh , who married Margaret Ball, and a daughter, Mrs. Pinchard'."

Here is my, not totally concluded, conclusion:
...my Father = William Downman Jr., b. bef 1657 (m. Million Travers),
...my Grandfather = William Downman Sr., prob. b. 1630, (m. Dorothy Nichols)
...my Great-Grandfather = William Sr's father, prob. b. 1810,
...my Great-Great-Grandfather (my father's Great-Grandfather) = William Sr's Grandfather prob. b. 1790. This would be the one who came over on the Mary Margaret in 1608. If I allowed for variance of years between generations, the G.G.Grandfather would or might have been born about the time Henry VIII changed England's alliance to the Anglican Church. (Martha C. Mordecai - 2004)
     
Child of I William Downman is:
  7108 i.   II William Downman, born Abt. 1630 in Plymouth (or Essex), Devonshire, England; died Abt. 1655 in Lancaster Co., VA; married Dorothy Nichols.


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