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The Ormsby's, Co. Cork Ireland branch

Updated March 22, 2014

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The Ormsby's, Co. Cork Ireland branch.
The history behind our Ormsby Coat of Arms is:
http://www.baronage.co.uk/classic1/herart11.html
Sir William de Ormesby ~ Gules a bend between six cross crosslets fitchy Or. Together with Hugh de Cressingham's appointment as Chamberlain of Scotland, Edward I made Sir William de Ormesby the Justiciar. Scotland was in revolt during his term of office, so there was little he could achieve in the establishment of law and order. His family estates were in Lincolnshire and today it is based in Ireland. Note: That the Co. Cork branch Dexter arm is charged with a rose gules, which to my understanding is the last modification to the Ormsby crest.

I am a QA for the ISS (International Space Station) at KSC FL & I currently reside in Cocoa FL. I am the middle of six siblings (John C., Jean A., Jennifer M., Christopher L. & Carol Ann). My father Charles J. Ormsby married Mrs Ruth L. Ormsby & was one of three brothers (Edward H. & George, who is Charles's twin) born to George & Maye D Hale Ormsby also in Kokomo IN. My father & his twin joined the USAF during WWII serving as fight engineers on B-17s. They were once shot down over Berlin & escaped with the help of the French underground back to allied forces. http://www.kokomoperspective.com/article.asp?3714
My other Uncle Ned (Edward H. Ormsby)had joined the US Army & was served under General Patton in the Third US Army at the Battle of the Bulge Dec 1944, Belgium. http://freespace.virgin.net/hart.ofeuro/bulgebat.html
http://www.dean.usma.edu/math/courses/ma255/pdf/LanchesterProject2.pdf
Uncle Ned had related the fact that he had been assigned to Patton’s men who helped rescue the “Lipizzan stallions” by evacuated them to Hostau, Czechoslovakia. Having remember this I had offered to take him to see the Lipizzan perform in Indianapolis one year. That’s when I heard the rest of the story. How he & the other troops had ridden in the boxcars feeding, cleaning & sleeping with the stallions for several days during this trek across Europe. Uncle Ned made it quite clear that he had no desire to renew his acquaintances with this fine since he had appearantly had quite vivid memories of shoveling out the boxcars in which he also slept. I suppose this is understandable when you consider the size of these horses, I guess this just personalizes & qualifies our appreciations of what so many did during WWII.
http://horses.about.com/cs/lifestyles/a/eqmajestic665.htm
http://www.lipizzan.org/History.htm
http://www.aog.usma.edu/PUBS/assembly/990304/vienna3.htm
Since I had joined the UASF in 1975 & maintained close relationship with my Uncle Ned over the years he bequeathed his Prayer card from the Battle of the Bulge to me. http://www.apostolic.edu/patton/text.htm
http://www.apostolic.edu/patton/testimony.htm
My grand father George Francis Ormsby was born in Elwood IN USA & I think that is his burial site. It was also passed down that my great grandfather George E. Ormsby came from Co. Cork Ireland during the great potato famine with his two other brothers. One brother (Charles?) who died on the way to America & was buried at sea & the other Jack who went west. Oral tradition also has it that Jack (aka: Black Jack) is the same Ormsby that is buried at Boot Hill AZ, USA with the headstone inscription “Ormsby shot”. It is also told that grate grandfather George E & his brother Jack Ormsby only spoke Gaelic. Great Granddad George E. Ormsby was married to Bridget Smith. It apprears that they had two sons George Joseph & Charles Francis ORMSBY who were not allowed to speak Gaelic.
Wilburt C.ORMSBY, son of Mr. and Mrs. J.C. ORMSBY was born in White Co. Ind. 26 Feb 1896. Was another Ormsby in Kokomo at this time, but I am not sure how or if we are related. He enlisted in the hospital corps at Kokomo Ind. 1 Jul 1918 and was assigned to Co. B Medical Dep't No 429, M.S.T. New York, NY.
Ref: Howard County IN Biography Section http://www.rootsweb.com/~inh

 
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  • Patton's Prayer Card front side (44 KB)
    Front view of the Prayer card I inherited from my Uncle Ned (Edward H. Ormsby), which was passed out to the Third Army before the Battle of the Bulge Dec. 1944.
  • Back side of Patton's Prayer card. (49 KB)
    Back view of the Prayer card I inherited from my Uncle Ned (Edward H. Ormsby), which was passed out to the Third Army before the Battle of the Bulge Dec. 1944. "Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies, and establish Thy justice among men and nations. Amen."
 
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