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Descendants of Allen Rutherford




Generation No. 1


1. ALLEN2 RUTHERFORD (JOHN1) was born 1803 in Pos. Down Co., Ireland, and died Sep 28, 1851 in Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH ? Lived in Union Twp Monroe Co. 1850. He married ANN O'NEAL/COOPER/MCNEAL Bef. Oct 23, 1830 in New York (?). She was born 1805 in Ireland, and died Sep 11, 1851 in Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH.

Notes for A
LLEN RUTHERFORD:
no documentation, this is merely assumtion Rev. John Rutherford is Benza's father

Will of Allen Rutherford
I Allen Rutherford of the county of Noble and state of Ohio do make and publish this my last will and testement.
item 1st: is that all my just debits shall be paid
item 2: I give and [ ] to my son John one brown mare and her colt
item 3: I give and [ ] to my children all namely John, Joseph, Samuel, MareyAnn, Robert and James an equal share of all my lands when the youngest comes of lawful age
item 4th: I give to daughter MareyAnn all her mother's things, one bed, and beding, one cow,[ ] and is [ ] of the house furniture and the side sadle.
item 4th: I do hereby nominate and apoint my son John, John Rutherford and Martin Beattey executors of this my last will and testiment hereby authorizing and empowering them to compromise against release and discharge in such manner as they may deem proper the Debts and claims due me. I do also authorise and empower if it shall become nesisary in order to pay my debts to sell by private sale as in such maner upon such terms of credit or otherwise as s they may think proper all or any part of my real estate and [ ] to purchasers to exicute acknowledge and deliver in fee simple. I do hereby revoke all former wills by me made for testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 23 day of Sept 1851.
Allen Rutherford
his mark seal

Atest
Hugh Wybrant, Jr.
Samuel Cooper


3/19/2000 Phone conversation with Larry Rutherford (Cecil, Joseph, Joseph, Allen) he has a letter from his great aunt Ethel Archer (Hiram, Joseph, Allen) that Allen, Ann and a child are buried at Whigville cemetery he didn't know off hand the dates. Allen came from Ireland by ship, landed in New York City where he met Ann and they were married. Ethel thought Ann worked at a textile mill and then they came to Ohio. Larry is suppose to send me a copy of the letter. Ann and Allen had 6 sons and 1 daughter.

Monroe Co Census 1850
SOUNDEX NAME TOWNSHIP PAGE
R361 ROTHERFORD, Allen UNION TWP 285
1850 Ohio Census - Union Township, Monroe County, District 107 (Wrom: OQKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTF
1 Allen Rutherford (b. 1803 - Ireland, d. ?), Farmer, Owned $800 in Real Estate
Ann Rutherford (b. 1805 - Ireland, d. ?), wife of Allen, Housekeeper (Sorry, no maiden name)
2 John Rutherford (b. 1830 - NY), Farmer
2 Mary Ann Rutherford (b. 1832 - NY), At School
2 Joseph Rutherford (b. 1834 - NY), Farmer / At School
2 James Rutherford (b. 1839 - OH) At School
2 Samuel Rutherford (b. 1837 - OH) At School
2 Robert Rutherford (b. 1840 - OH) At School
2 William Rutherford (b. 1843 - OH) At School

1840 RUTHERFORD ALLEN New York County NY p 226 New York Cty 7th Ward Federal Population Schedule NY 1840 Federal Census Index NYS4a2257509 (need to check)

1830 RUTHERFORD ALLEN Rensselaer County NY p 126 Pittstown Federal Population Schedule NY 1830 Federal Census Index NYS3a1603245 (found Allen on this census)
1 male of 30 under 40, 1 female of 30 under 40, 2 Aliens foreign born

Irish Flax Growers List, 1796
ID County Surname Given Name
28640 Leitrim Rutherford Allen (need to check)


John Rutherford and Margaret Ann Crandall were married on 11/18/1853 in Noble County, Ohio (Source: Latter Day Saints Archives). From this union I only know one child named Henry Rutherford. The parents of John are Allen Rutherford (b. 1803 - Ireland) and Ann ? (b. 1805 - Ireland) (Source: 1850 Ohio Census - Monroe County). There may be a connection, but more research is required : K. W. Crandall texztax@aol.com

George married Elizabeth DEVOLLD on July 10,1886 in Noble Co.,Ohio.
need info on his parents and brothers and sisters and George & Elizabeth's Children : John T.Cramblett gunone@byesville.net

The 1850 Ohio Census (Monroe County) includes Allen Rutherford (b.1803-Ireland)and Ann (?) Rutherford (b. 1805-Ireland) with children: John (b. 1830-NY), Mary Ann(b. 1832-NY), Jospeh (b. 1834-NY, James (b. 1839-OH), Samuel (b. 1837-OH), Robert (b. 1840-OH) and William (b. 1843-OH). John Rutherford married Margaret Ann Crandall(my 2nd great aunt). I hope this helps. : K. W. Crandall texztax@aol.com

Subj: Re: [OHNOBLE-L] Was there an Epidemic in 1851?
Date: 4/8/01
To: smith_w@losalamos.com, OHNOBLE-L@rootsweb.com
In a message dated 4/8/01 4:09:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smith_w@losalamos.com writes:
Yes, there was an influenza and cholera epidemic.

Thank you so much for the reply, we knew it had to be something, so many died all in the same month. In our case Allen Rutherford (father) died Sept 28, 1851, Ann Rutherford (mother) died Sept 11, 1851 and William Rutherford (son) died Sept 1, 1851. The parents were in their mid 40's and the son was 8 yrs old. It must have hit Marion twp hard, cause there were many with the same dates ranging a two month period.

Again thank you for the reply
Becky


Subj: Samuel Cooper - Allen Rutherford Connection
Date: 4/18/01
To: joemickey@juno.com

Mickey,
I found the Samuel Cooper connection!! As I said I ordered Allen's will and records of land sales by his children. I read your posts last night but this didn't hit me till this morning.... Samuel Cooper was a witness to Allen Rutherford's will. John Rutherford and Martin Beatty were named executors. Witnessed by Hugh Mybrant, Jr (hard to read) and Samuel Cooper, dated 23 Sept 1851. As I said before Allen died 28 Spet 1851, preceeded in death by Ann his wife 11 Sept 1851 and son William A. 1 Sept 1851. Allen and Ann also had a daughter named Mary Ann so perhaps that is their mother's name.

Samuel Cooper is also a witness to a land transfer dated 12 February 1863 where John, Margaret Ann (his wife nee Crandle)and Robert Rutherford transfered land to Caroline Rutherford, wife of Joseph.

For more info about this line see
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=becky1949

Subj: Ireland Research
Date: 4/30/01
To: joemickey@juno.com, TexzTaz
File: C:\AMERICA ONLINE 6.0\misc\temp\allen.ZIP (96001 bytes) DL Time (32000 bps): < 1 minute

Mickey and Keith,
Albert Rutherford replied to one of our messages and I feel he may have something. Go to the Rutherford surname board and print out message #2358 for reference. I feel the family below is a place to start, since most of the names of the sons names are included in Allen Rutherford's family. I also feel Allen's father's name may have been John since his first son was named John. The only facts I know:
1) Allen born 1803, in Ireland
2) came to America prior to 1830, John born NY 1830.
3) Allen's wife Ann McNeal (Joseph's death cert b. NY, 1880 census listed b. Ireland) or Anna Cooper ( Robert's death cert b. Ireland), b. 1805
4) I have been told Allen and Ann were married in NY but have found no proof, could be Ireland before 1830.
5) I'm sure they were not catholic.....but don't know any more.

I did some research on an irsh web site and found the following that might help.
Rutherford household in each county of Ireland 1848-1864
Antrim 2 Armagh 3
Belfast city 15 Cavan 2
Clare 1 Derry 1
Donegal 14 Down 16
Dublin 3 Dublin city 2
Fremanagh 20 Galway 1
Kildare 1 Leitrim 21
Louth 4 Mayo 2
Meath 1 Monaghan 2
Offaly 1 Tyrone 17
(I would suspect other family members stayed in Ireland, since all we've heard about are Allen and Benza)

Rutherford households in each civil parish of Down in 1863-4
Annahilt 8 Ballyphilip 1
Donaghadee 3 Dromore 1
Moira 1 Saintfield 1
Seapatrick 1

Rutherford households in each civil parish of Fermanagh in 1862
Aghalurcher 7 Agavea 3
Devenish 1 Enniskillen 1
Inishmacsaint 7 Killesher 1

Rutherford households in each civil parish of Leitrim in 1856
Cloonclare 15 Killasnet 3
Kiltoghert 1 Oughterah 2

Rutherford households in each civil parish of of Belfast city 1856-7
Knockbreda 3 Shankill 12

Rutherford households in each civil parish of Tyrone in 1851
Alhaloo 2 Cappagh 3
Carnteel 1 Clogher 1
Derryloran 7 Donacavey 1
Drumglass 1 Termonmaguirk 1

Although all of the above list household after they came to USA it tells us where they were. Also was told this Surname Dictionary:
Rutherford, numerous: mainly from the Ulster area. An important Scottish family from the Borders; in Ireland from 17th century.

If they can find anyone that would help us research this family I'd be willing to split the cost........

I'd print out everything you have and give them copies to take with them and leave with someone to continue the hunt. I can't wait to see if they find anything, gosh I hope so......... Also as Keith suggests look for Rutherfords, Coopers (Samuel) and Beattys (Martin) in the same area could be a good clue.

Another clue there was a Rev. Robert Rutherford was also in Noble co at the same time, I don't know much about him or if he is connected? but this is what I know: (could he be a brother?)

Noble County History 1887 page 376
Sharon, an old and once flourishing village, was laid out March 22, 1831, under the proprietorship of Robert Rutherford and Edward Parrish. The first building erected within the present limits of the town of Sharon was a log school house.......prior to 1823.

Rev. Robert Rutherford, one of the proprietors of the town, was the first postmaster. An office was established through his efforts in 1830.

Rev Robert Rutherford, pastor of the Presbyterian church, was an early settler, locating here before the town was laid out.
page 377
Churches. Presbyterian- the first church edifice in Sharon was erected about 1823 by the Presbyterians and United Presbyterians....... the two congreations continued to worship in this building until about 1835, when the union of the churches was disolved. Among the early ministers were Rev. John Arthur, Rev. Robert Rutherford........ ( this is basically all the info about Rev. Robert)

Sharon township is quit a distance from Marion twp where Allen was but I find it very hard to believe there were two Rutherford's in Noble co at the same time and there are not related in anyway. I've never found anyother info about Rev. Robert. I looked on the 1880 census and found no remain family or anything. ?????

1. Allen RUTHERFORD was born 1803 in Ireland, and died 28 SEP 1851 in Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH ? Lived in Union Twp Monroe Co. 1850. He was buried in Whigville Community Church Cemetery, Noble Co, OH. He married Ann MCNEAL/(COOPER) in New York. She was born 1805 in New York/IRELAND, and died 11 SEP 1851 in Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH. She was buried in Whigville Community Church Cemetery, Noble Co, OH.

Children of Allen RUTHERFORD and Ann MCNEAL are:
2 i. John RUTHERFORD was born 1830 in NEW YORK.
3 ii. Mary Ann RUTHERFORD was born 1832 in NEW YORK. She married Isaac YOUNGBLUE 20 JUL 1861 in Noble Co, OH, son of Frederick YOUNGBLUE and Mary Ann ROSSITER. He was born 9 SEP 1834.
4 iii. Joseph V RUTHERFORD was born 26 SEP 1834 in NEW YORK, and died 21 FEB 1914 in CENTER TWP, NOBLE CTY, OH.
5 iv. Samuel RUTHERFORD was born 1837 in Ohio.
6 v. James RUTHERFORD was born 1839 in Ohio, and died 1865 in BATTLE OF OLASTEE, FLA - CIVIL WAR.
7 vi. Robert RUTHERFORD was born 12 DEC 1840 in Ohio, and died 23 FEB 1929 in St Louis, MO.
8 vii. William RUTHERFORD was born 1843 in Ohio, and died 1 SEP 1851 in Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH.

**** New info, I've been searching the 1880 census (www.ancestry.com) I have done Seneca, Center, Marion, Sharon, Stock and part of Wayne twps, I found some Coopers (sorry didn't print them out and can't remember where I found them now); found some Beattys, two families, but no Martin in Seneca twp; found Joseph and Robert Rutherford but no John so far. But I did find Richard Crandle age 58 farm labor b. MD, father b. MD, mother b. ?
Jane Crandle wife age 52? keeping house b. NY, father b. Conn, mother b. NY

Going thru the land transfers I have I found another clue, then found the marriage record; Mary Ann Rutherford married Isaac Youngblue July 20, 1861; so I have not found them on the 1880 census, but I did find his brother Jesse in Center twp and Jesse testified for Robert Rutherford for his Civil War pension case. I have found no clues as to what happened to Samuel Rutherford?
Also, Keith in case you didn't know John and Margaret Ann had another son, Thomas A. s/o J & M. A. Rutherford
died Nov 11, 1856 aged 2 yrs, 2 mo, ? days
he is buried next to Allen at Whigville.

Keith and Mickey could you both send me the info you have about your families so I can add it to mine.

I hope this helps and if I find more I'll send it on.
Becky

Enclosed photos from Whigville Cemetery, more to follow.

Becky,
I've noticed your postings re Allen Rutherford, b 1803 in Ireland. My own Rutherfords were from co Donegal, Ireland, but I don't recall ever having come accross the name Allen or Alan among them. The Christian name is usually spelt as Alan, where it appears as Allen it is usually called after a surname, eg mother's maiden name. The name does appear in the family of Rev John Rutherford, of co Down, Ireland, and his wife Isabella Alleine. Seems possible that their son Allen Rutherford was called for his mother's maiden name (Alleine). Perhaps your Allen Rutherford (b.1803) may belong to this family!

See Gary's posting at http://www.genform.com/rutherford/messages/2358.html

There are still many Rutherfords living in co Down, Ireland, and I hope to contact some of them soon regarding genealogy.

Albert Rutherford

John Rutherford 1650-1734
Isabella Alleine
daughter of: Joseph Alleine of Wilton, Somerset
son of Joseph Alleine 1633
married: circa 1652
wife: Theodoshia Alleine
daughter of Richard Alleine
descendant of Alan Lord of Buckenhall
1630-1669

John Rutherford fought at the battle of Boyne and settled in County Down, Ireland. He lived to the age of 84 lived to the age of 82. John Rutherford was a Presbyterian minister. He married Isabella Alleine and his brothers were captains in the Army of William III and were given lands in Ireland. They were in the Battle of Boyne which gave the Protestants control of Northern Ireland.

children:
-------------------19. Thomas Rutherford
-------------------19. John Rutherford
remained in Ireland and had 4 children - one son went to America
-------------------19. James Rutherford
married his cousin Margaret McMahon and emigrated to America in in 1738 - settled in Augusta County, VA
-------------------19. Samuel Rutherford
-------------------19. Allen Rutherford
-------------------19. Elizabeth Rutherford
born 1715 at Wigtown, Scotland
married Hugh Hudson - they emigrated to America
she died in 1738
-------------------19. Esther Rutherford
-------------------19. Katharine Rutherford
1685-1738
m: John Walker

Katherine married John Walker in 1702 in Scotland. They moved to Ireland in 1704 and emigrated to Chester County, PA by 1730. They are both buried in the Nottingham Meeting House burial ground in Chester Co. PA. The cemetery is in Maryland, due to a land dispute between William Penn and Lord Baltimore. They had at least 11 children. (4) Their son Alexander married Jane Hammer or Hummer in 1747. Had at least 11 children. (5) Their son David married Jane Holmes in 1790. Had at least 10 children. (6) Their daughter Katherine married Ambrose Stone in 1830.

In a message dated 4/30/01 7:33:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, joemickey@juno.com writes:

Becky,
I have not been very attentive to mail on genforum - my very best
friend who was to be married this Friday is in the hospital and has a
cancerous tumor wrapped around her aorta === in-operable. Anyway, I did
find mail today and wrote that my sister who is NOT a genealogist is
going to Ireland for 3 weeks and has offered to do some research for me.
Her husband - a WILSON has many Irish ancestors and he is a beginner in
research. They will go to both Belfast and Dublin to hunt some. I have
no idea of what religion was practiced, where they may have lived,
census, land records, etc that might be found? If you have any clues,
please let me know in the next few days, please. I am on my Juno address
daily as have been updating friends on the condtion of our hospital
friend - we all wish we could wave a magic wand. Mickey in MI

Subj: Busy Day but Got Results
Date: 5/3/01
To: joemickey@juno.com, TexzTaz

Hello Mickey and Keith,
It's been a busy day but I've found more info.......believe it or not!! I couldn't.

I was able to find thru ancestry.com where Samuel Cooper and Isaac Youngblue both bought Federal Land. BLM - ES, GLO Records - Home If you go to this site you can select Ohio then search for your ancester if they bought Federal Land you can see and print a copy of the land deed and the cool thing is it's signed in hand by the current president. Play with the tab on top of the info for various options and info.

Samuel Cooper of Monroe County Ohio purchased the SE quarter of the SE quarter of Section 8 in twp 7 Range 8; April 10, 1837 (So this proves he was right there at the same time as Allen Rutherford)

I found Isaac Youngblue bought Federal land in Vinton County, Sept 1, 1857 from what I could tell it fell in Eagle twp in Vinton County. This was before he and Mary Ann Rutherford were married and I suppose he stayed in Noble County for a while since they were married there and then they moved to Vinton County sometime. I also found Isaac on the Ohio Miracode index of 1910, living alone in Vinton County. So I supposed Mary Ann died before 1910. I went to Vinton Co Genweb and luckily they have a death index online. I found; What has to be Mary Ann.

seq Vol- Cert.
num Page Last, First Middle Death Date Age Place of Residence no.

5155a 4-095 Youngblue, 1909 May 11 76y8m16d Jackson Tp. 4


Authority: April 24, 1820: SALE-CASH ENTRY (3 Stat. 566)
Acres: 49.5
Land Office: CHILLICOTHE
Comments: ---

# Aliquot
Parts Sec/
Blk Twnshp Range Fract.
Sect. Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr.

1 NWNW 30/ 10-N 19-W No OHIO RIVER SURVEY OH VINTON ---


Ohio 1910 Census Miracode Index

Isaac M Youngblue
Age: 75 State: OH
Color: W Enumeration District: 0191
Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0098
County: Vinton
Relation: Head of Household
Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place
living alone

I'm going to write to Vinton County and try to get her death cert, see what the mother's name is listed as? Sadly Vinton county's 1880 census is not online yet with ancestry.com. I also search OHS for Isaac's death record (they have online from 1913-1937) and he wasn't there so he must have died between 1910 and 1913.

Also, I'm going to be writing Noble County again for some more stuff, I'm going to ask for a search on John Rutherford I assume the same as for Isaac Youngblue that he died in Noble Co between 1910 and 1913. Maybe out luck will continue.

Ohio 1910 Census Miracode Index

John Rutherford
Age: 80 State: OH
Color: W Enumeration District: 0114
Birth Place: New York Visit: 0061
County: Noble
Relation: Head of Household
Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place
Wife Nancy E 47 Ohio

FYI: There is a great book you can get free at http:auditor.state.oh.us
or email petro@auditor.state.oh.us
Ask for the Ohio Lands A Short History. It's great and describes the Federal lands where they were and helps locate where your ancester lived.

I've been transcribing the land transfers, boy that was a job.
Basically as follows:

August 13, 1860
Samuel, James and Mary Ann Rutherford to John and Joseph Rutherford
$600 NE qtr of the SE qtr and SE qtr of the SE qtr of sec 16 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by Charles Price, George Stone, JP

Sept 10, 1860
Charles and Mary Price to John Rutherford
$200 SE qtr of the SE qtr and NE qtr of the SE qtr sec 16 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by Joesph Davidson, George Stone, JP

June 10, 1861
James Rutherford to Mary Ann Rutherford
$100 NW qtr of the NW qtr sec 15 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by John Rutherford, George Stone, JP

April 8, 1862
Isaac and Mary Ann Youngblue to John and Joseph Rutherford
$150 (looked like one sixth part) NW qtr of the NW qtr of sec 15 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by James Rossiter (Mary Ann Rossiter is Isaac's mother), George Stone, JP

Feb 12, 1863
John and Margaret Ann Rutherford and Robert Rutherford to Caroline Rutherford
$900 SE qtr of the Se qtr sec 16 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by Margaret A Danford, Samuel Cooper, William Danford, JP

Feb 12, 1863
Joseph and Caroline Rutherford to Margaret Ann Rutherford
$225 NW qtr of the NW qtr sec 15 twp 7 range 8
William Danford, JP

Feb 19, 1863
Robert Rutherford to Margaret Ann Rutherford
$150 NW qtr of the NW qtr sec 15 twp 7 range 8
Witnessed by William McWilliams, Canfield Phelps, JP

If you both send me your snail mail addresses I'll send you copies of these.

COOPER, SAMUEL View Image
Land Office: ZANESVILLE Sequence #:
Document Number: 7476 Total Acres: 40.6
Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No Issue Date: April 1, 1837
Mineral Rights Reserved: Metes and Bounds: No
Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries

Subj: Thanks so much
Date: 5/11/01
To: joemickey@juno.com

I've heard back on my last requests from Noble Co. They could find no death record for Samuel or Benza Cooper, nor for John Rutherford. I know John was in Noble in 1910, but now have no idea where he died?

I got the will administration for Allen Rutherford and the will of Joseph Rutherford. I asked for the will of Samuel Cooper but none was found, however they did tell me they found Samuel, Jr's will. Do you have that? They did not send it to me, but I can get it, if you don't have it.

Now I'm just waiting for Mary Ann Rutherford Youngblue's death certificate from Vinton County and I'll send you everything I have. Hopefully that will determine if Ann was a McNeal or a Cooper.

Subj: Re: Irish Research
Date: 4/11/03 5:23:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: robbiewill61@hotmail.com
To: Sizlegal@aol.com

Hello Becky,

Thank you for your mail regarding your Rutherford ancestors. I have read through the information you have and my first thought was to check the townland valuations. In 1827-1834 only two Allen Rutherfords are found in Ireland renting either a house or land.

1829
Allen Rutherford
Townland of Carricknadarreff
Parish of Annahilt
Co Down

1829
Allen Rutherford
Townland of Drumscanilly
Parish of Innismacsaint
Co Fermanagh.

Two John Rutherfords are found (These would not include the Rev. John Rutherford who was a recepient of the tithe paid by the people I have found)

1829
John Rutherford
Townland of Ballycrune
Parish of Annahilt

1827
John Rutherford
Portaferry Gardens
Parish of Ballyphillip

The above John Rutherford is I think the son of Rev.John (see later) It is significant that both an Allen Rutherford and a John Rutherford are found living in close proimity.

These locations and the rareity of the name would seem to fit nicely into your research to date.
I am wondering about the registers of birth and marriage for Annahilt. The Presbyterian Church dates from 1779 and theorectically birth records should be available from that date. It may be that your researcher has already explored that avenue. It could be that the early records have not survived but I can look into that . The Rutherford and Beatty/Beattie family seem to have had an ongoing connection in that I have in the data base the following references:

From baptismal entry Annahilt.
Eliza Ann Rutherford of Annahilt wife of Joseph Beatty
Mother of James Beatty born 1868 and Robert Beatty born 1870

ditto
Mary Rutherford wife of John Beattie
mother of Mary Beattie born 1865.

I have the book "History of the Congregations in the Presbyterian Church in Ireland 1610-1982" from which your previous researcher took his information. The only thing I can add is that John Rutherford son of Rev John was ordained in Ballydown on 15th August 1848 and after 26 years he resigned on
1st November 1874 in order to join his family in the United States. The question is asked did he join a brother called Allen? From past experience in Irish family research I have found it was common and
accepted practice for a man to call his first born son after his father, so it would seem likely that Allen Rutherford,s father was indeed John. It may follow if the same principle is applied that Rev John Rutherford's father was also John as I estimate that John Rutherford jun. would have been
older than Allen. Could Allen be the surname of the mother ,Rev John's wife?

There are a great many resources that can be examined for evidence of your family including freeholders lists ,poll tax lists, voters lists all dating from 1665-1795 There is the census of 1776 and the List of Protestant householders of 1740 The PRONI archive is the largest of it's kind in either Britain or Ireland and contains some 50 miles of records .Among these something should surely
be found.

Should you wish to know more about Ulster Ancestry's Service please visit our site at www.ulsterancestry.com and click on "Research Services" There you will find all the information you need about our reports, the cost, and what you can expect to receive for your money.

I think there is credence in this research and I would recommend that a Full Research Report would have a realistic chance of proving successful.

My best regards
Robert Williams

Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 02:51:52 -0500
From: "William McKinney" <sholly@adelphia.net>
To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <014201c17e2a$deb1b940$ca303418@mckinney>
Subject: [Scotch-Irish] Scotland to Ireland
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Fellow listers,

I found this on another site and asked for and received permission to relay it to the Scotch-Irish list. I'm not sure of its accuracy, but it places the McKinney family (mine) exactly where we were when we left Ireland for America in 1823, only it places them there nearly two centuries earlier. And, best of all, it provides research references to support it.
The posting purports to be a list of families making the trip from Scotland to Ireland to the plantation counties in the earlier 1600s.
Maybe Linda has run across this before and can venture an educated opinion as to its accuracy or authenticity.

Yours for the enjoyment.

Bill McKinney
Erie, Pa.

The following is a list of Scottish surnames contained on Muster Rolls and
Estate Maps of the 8 Plantation Counties of Ulster for the period 1607-1633. Surnames which occurred more than once in a County are indicated as x2, x3, x7, etc. (BLR Note: I only found Rutherford in Co. Down.)

*COUNTY DOWN:
Abercrombie, Adair x3, Adams, Agnew x2, Aicken, Allen, Anderson x2, Andrews,
Bailie x2, Barkley, Barklie x3, Bayly, Beatty, Blackwood, Blair x5, Boyd
x3, Brackley, Brown, Carlile, Carmichael, Carr, Carson, Cathcart x2, Catherwood,
Chambers, Chermsides, Cooper, Cowper, Craig, Crawford x3, Crear, Cummings, Cunningham x13, Danielston, Davidson, Dick, Dickson, Dodds, Douglas, Drennan, Drummond, Dufferin, Dunbar, Dunleath, Dunlop x3, Echlin x4, Edmonston, Forsith, Frazer, Galloway, Galt, Galway, Gelston, Gemmil, Glen, Greenshields, Hamilton x14, Hare, Harper x2, Harvey x2, Hilton, Hogg, Howie, Howson, Hunter, Innes, Julius, Keevet, Kelly, Kelso, Kennedy x7, Kerr, Kilpatrick, Kirkpatrick, Kyle, Kylr, Leckey, Leslie, Lindsay, Lloyd, Logan x2, Magee, Martin, Mathyson, Maxwell x5, Millar, Monett, Moneypenny x3, Montgomery x18, Moon, Moore x7, Mowlane, Murray x2, McBurney, McBride, McCappin, McCartney, McCashin x2, McClelland, McCleery, McComb, McCrae, McCreedy, McCullen, McCurry, McDonnell, McDougall x3, McDowell x2, McEwen, McGarry, McGee, McGifford, McIlevrath, McIlveyne, McKay, McKee, McLarnan, McLellan x4, McLean, McMakene, McMaster, McMillan, McMullen, McNabb, Nesbitt, Nevin, Nugent, Orr, Patrick, Patters!
on, Peacock, Peebles, Pollock x2, Read, Reid x2, Reynolds, Robb, Ross x5, Rudd x2, Rutherford, Scott, Semple, Seton, Shaw x3, Spier, Stanehouse, Stanhouse, Stevenson, Stewart x2, Tate, Thomson x2, Trail, Waddell, Walker, Wallace, Wanchop, Wardlaw, Wardlow, Watson, Selsh, Williamson, Wilson x4, Wylie, Wyms, Young
**References:
(1) Familia, Number 11, 1995, Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild,
Belfast.
Article: The Scots in Ulster - Their Denization and Naturalization 1605
-1634, by Rev. David Stewart; (2) Family Links, Vol. 1, No. 1, Jan. 1981,
magazine of the Irish Genealogical Association, Belfast. Article: Surnames of the Upper Ards, Co. Down; (3) Scottish Colloquim Proceedings, University of
Guelph, Ontario, Canada, 1969.



More About A
LLEN RUTHERFORD:
Burial: 1851, Whigville Community Church Cemetery, Noble Co, OH
Comment 1: CAME FROM NEW YORK 1837
Comment 2: HAD SEVEN CHILDREN
Residence: 1851, MARION TWP, NOBLE CTY, OH

Notes for A
NN O'NEAL/COOPER/MCNEAL:
birthplace listed as Ireland on 1880 census by Joseph.

On Joseph Rutherford's death certificate his mother is listed as Ann McNeal born in New York.
On his brother, Robert Rutherford's death certificate his mother is listed as Anna Cooper born in Ireland.
I have received Mary Ann Rutherford Youngblue's death certificate from Vinton County, OH and there is no information listed.
Received Samuel Rutherford's death certificate mother's name listed as Anna McNeal born Ohio.
I am possitive the mother of all children was the same woman, and feel her name was Ann Cooper born in Ireland.

Sept 22, 2001, I have just received information from Robert W Rutherford, rwrutherford@columbus.rr.com

Bob Rutherford sent me scans of Samuel Rutherford's family bible. Listed amoung the deaths is Anne O'Neil Rutherford, September 14th, A.D. 1851.

Now we have Ann McNeil, Anna McNeal, Anna Cooper, and Anne O'Neil. If we could only find a death record for John Rutherford???


More About A
NN O'NEAL/COOPER/MCNEAL:
Burial: Whigville Community Church Cemetery, Noble Co, OH

More About A
LLEN RUTHERFORD and ANN O'NEAL/COOPER/MCNEAL:
Marriage: Bef. Oct 23, 1830, New York (?)
     
Children of A
LLEN RUTHERFORD and ANN O'NEAL/COOPER/MCNEAL are:
2. i.   JOHN3 RUTHERFORD, b. Oct 23, 1830, Pos. Pittstown, NEW YORK; d. Dec 15, 1916, Fay, Washington Co., Ohio.
  ii.   MARY ANN RUTHERFORD, b. Aug 25, 1832, Pos. Pittstown, NEW YORK; d. May 11, 1909, Jackson twp, Vinton Co, OH; m. ISAAC YOUNGBLUE, Jul 20, 1861, Noble Co, OH1; b. Sep 9, 1834; d. Bet. 1910 - 1913, Possible Vinton Co, OH.
  Notes for MARY ANN RUTHERFORD:
1880 Census Vinton Co, Ohio, Jackson twp (ancestry.com page 3)
I M Youngblue M 48 mar. Farmer
Mary Ann F 47 wife keep house NY Ireland Ireland
Cordelia (not sure) Rutherford F 8 niece Ohio Ohio Ohio

1900 Census Ohio Vinton Co, Jackson twp www.ancestry.com page 13
I M Youngblue head M Sept 1834 65 M 39 Ohio PA PA Farmer
Mary A Youngblue wife F Aug 1832 67 M 39 no children New York Ireland Ireland
Wallace Mc Donnold nephew M Sept 1875 25 S Ohio Ohio Ohio labor in saw mill

I am looking for information on the parents of my gggg grandmother, Mary Ann Rutherford. She was born in Ireland about 1820. She married Solomon Brodie October 10, 1850 in Lebanon, Warren Co, Ohio. By 1860 they were in Hancock Co, Illinois with 4 children. Thomas, John, Sarah and William. By 1870 she was no longer with Solomon. She probably died but I sure would like to get her death date and find out what she died of. They are both buried in the Tioga Cemetary in Hancock Co, Illinois. If anyone has any idea about this person please email me at shawnnee@jps.net

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohvinton/death4-5.htm
All data was copied from the LDS microfilm of the Vinton County Ohio Death Records. All data has been entered here as near as possible to what was written on the original record. No attempt has been made to change spelling or apparently incorrect data. This volume is TYPEWRITTEN instead of handwritten. That makes it easier to read, but introduces the ADDITIONAL PROBLEM of typographical errors (and I have noticed many) in the records. I have added a comment line or lines after each person where there was some discrepancy within the record. The person's name and page number are repeated on the comment lines for sorting purposes. The page numbers in Volume 4 are not in consecutive order on the microfilm (or in the original book, I imagine). For instance, the "A" surnames are on pages 55, 56, 183, 184, 121, 122, 271, then 272, but the pages have all been grouped together in the "A" section. All surnames that begin with the same letter are together in its own section. There are no Married, Single or Widowed indicators in this volume.

I do not know the exact purpose of Volume 4 since this volume covers the time period of 1909 to 1952, but all the deaths were recorded during 1952. During this time period the Ohio Department of Health kept the original death certificates. Due to the number of deaths in this volume, I believe that it was meant to serve as an index to the Dept. of Health death certificates. Each record contains a certificate number that probably refers to a Dept. of Health page number (since there are duplicates), not an individual certificate, though I have not researched how they refer. They seem to be numbered starting with 1 for each year, but not necessarily. Where parents of stillborn or very young children are given, only the father is listed in this volume. The original record should have both parent's names, except where one or the other was not known.

seq       Vol-                              Cert.
num       Page      Last, First Middle       Death Date       Age       Place of Residence       no.

5155a      4-095      Youngblue,       1909 May 11      76y8m16d       Jackson Tp.       4


  More About MARY ANN RUTHERFORD:
Comment 1: 1900, Stated on census never had children

  Notes for ISAAC YOUNGBLUE:
Patentee Name:
ISAAC M YOUNGBLUE
Warrantee Name:

Document #: 19569
Misc. Doc. Nr: ---
Indian Allotment Nr: ---
Tribe: ---
US Reservations: ---
Mineral Reservations: No
Geographic Name: ---
Metes/Bounds: No
Survey Date: ---

Issue Date: September 1, 1857
Cancelled: No
Authority: April 24, 1820: SALE-CASH ENTRY (3 Stat. 566)
Acres: 49.5
Land Office: CHILLICOTHE
Comments: ---

# Aliquot
Parts Sec/
Blk Twnshp Range Fract.
Sect. Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr.

1 NWNW 30/ 10-N 19-W No OHIO RIVER SURVEY OH VINTON ---


Ohio 1910 Census Miracode Index

Isaac M Youngblue
Age: 75 State: OH
Color: W Enumeration District: 0191
Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0098
County: Vinton
Relation: Head of Household
Other Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth Place
living alone




  More About ISAAC YOUNGBLUE and MARY RUTHERFORD:
Marriage: Jul 20, 1861, Noble Co, OH1

3. iii.   JOSEPH V RUTHERFORD, b. Sep 26, 1834, Pos. Pittstown, NEW YORK; d. Feb 21, 1914, CENTER TWP, NOBLE CTY, OH.
4. iv.   SAMUEL A RUTHERFORD, b. Dec 20, 1837, Union twp, Monroe Co., Ohio; d. Jun 28, 1920, Chillicothe, Ross Co., Ohio.
  v.   JAMES RUTHERFORD, b. May 26, 1839, Ohio; d. 1865, BATTLE OF OLASTEE, FLA - CIVIL WAR.
  Notes for JAMES RUTHERFORD:
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/battles.htm

Olustee
Other Names: Ocean Pond

Location: Baker County

Campaign: Florida Expedition (1864)

Date(s): February 20, 1864

Principal Commanders: Brig. Gen. Truman Seymour [US]; Brig. Gen. Joseph Finegan [CS]

Forces Engaged: Division [US]; District of East Florida [CS]

Estimated Casualties: 2,806 total (US 1,860; CS 946)

Description: In February 1864, the commander of the Department of the South, Maj. Gen. Quincy A. Gillmore, launched an expedition into Florida to secure Union enclaves, sever Rebel supply routes, and recruit black soldiers. Brig. Gen. Truman Seymour moved deep into the state, occupying, destroying, and liberating, meeting little resistance on February 20, he approached Brig. Gen. Joseph Finegan’s 5,000 Confederates entrenched near Olustee. One infantry brigade pushed out to meet Seymour’s advance units. The Union forces attacked but were repulsed. The battle raged, and as Finegan committed the last of his reserves, the Union line broke and began to retreat. Finegan did not exploit the retreat, allowing most of the fleeing Union forces to reach Jacksonville.

Result(s): Confederate victory

CWSAC Reference #: FL005

Preservation Priority: III.2 (Class B)
Olustee Battlefield State Historic Site is located on U.S. 90, 15 miles east of Lake City, Florida.
From 1-10, Exit #45 to U.S. 90, then west 5 miles.



  More About JAMES RUTHERFORD:
Comment 1: ENTERED CIVIL WAR AGE 20 6/26/1861
Comment 2: 25th OVI CO I
Comment 3: KILLED BATTLE OF OLASTEE, FLA 1865

5. vi.   ROBERT RUTHERFORD, b. Dec 12, 1840, Ohio; d. Feb 23, 1929, St Louis, MO.
  vii.   WILLIAM RUTHERFORD, b. Jun 22, 1843, Ohio; d. Sep 1, 1851, Marion Twp NOBLE CTY, OH.
  Notes for WILLIAM RUTHERFORD:
Tombstone
Thomas A.
Son of A. & A. Rutherford
died 9/1/1851
age 8 yrs, 2 mos, 9 days

  More About WILLIAM RUTHERFORD:
Burial: Whigville Community Church Cemetery, Noble Co, OH




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