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THE SCRIVENS OF SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND


Generation No. 10


12. SIR THOMAS10 SCRIVEN (EDWARD9, THOMAS8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, JOHN5, JOHN4, REGINALD3, RICHARD2, DAVID (EDWARD)1) was born 15 April 1584 in Frodesley, Shropshire, England61, and died 21 January 1643/44 in Frodesley, Shropshire, England62,63. He married (1) ELIZABETH BROMLEY 06 October 1604, daughter of HENRY BROMLEY and ELIZABETH PELHAM. She was born Abt. 1582 in Hult Castle, Worcestershire, England, and died 28 August 1612 in Frodesley, Shropshire, England64. He married (2) MARGARET CORBETT 01 October 1616 in Grinshill, Shropshire, England65,66, daughter of VINCENT CORBETT and FRANCES HUMFRESTON. She was born Bef. 1579 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England67, and died 11 April 1659 in Frodesley, Shropshire, England68.

Notes for S
IR THOMAS SCRIVEN:
Sir Thomas Scriven (16 April 1584 - 21 January 1644), who distinguished himself in the army of King Charles I during the English Civil Wars, was knighted by the King on 29 September 1642. A pair of leather gauntlets presented to him by the King were long treasured in the family. In 1643, Thomas was a colonel, leading men in battle. He was described as "Sir Thomas Scriven, knight, colonel of one regiment of foote of the trained bands of the county of Salop [the early name of the county, before it was known as Shropshire], and governor of Whytchurch in the said county." On 26 May 1643, he received orders from Lt. General Arthur Lord Capell to raise troops, and be prepared to defend Salop from her enemies (TRANSACTIONS OF THE SHROPSHIRE ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND NATURAL HISTORY SOCIETY, 2nd Series, Volume 7 [Printed for the Society, 1895], 321). Thomas was seriously wounded in an unsuccessful attack on Wem in October 1643, and he died on 21 January 1644. There is a fine monument to him in the parish church at Condover, a town about four miles from Frodesley.
Thomas was Lord of Frodesley Manor 1631-1644.
Prior to her marriage to Thomas, Margaret Corbett had been married to Thomas Corbet of Moreton Corbet. They were married there 13 September 1605. Thomas Corbet died 18 March 1614/15.
Margaret lived to "a good old age" and could read a letter without the aid of eyeglasses when she was over eighty years old!
     
Children of T
HOMAS SCRIVEN and ELIZABETH BROMLEY are:
  i.   FRANCIS11 SCRIVEN, b. Abt. 1611, Frodesley, Shropshire, England69; d. 25 July 1634, Frodesley, Shropshire, England70.
  ii.   RICHARD SCRIVEN, b. Abt. 1612, Frodesley, Shropshire, England71; d. Frodesley, Shropshire, England.
     
Children of THOMAS SCRIVEN and MARGARET CORBETT are:
  iii.   MARY11 SCRIVEN, b. Abt. 1615, Frodesley, Shropshire, England71.
  iv.   RACHELL SCRIVEN, b. Abt. 1617, Frodesley, Shropshire, England71; d. 20 May 1641, Frodesley, Shropshire, England72.
  v.   THOMAS SCRIVEN, b. 26 April 1621, Frodesley, Shropshire, England73; d. 16 March 1632/33, Frodesley, Shropshire, England74.
  vi.   RICHARD SCRIVEN, b. 07 June 1625, Frodesley, Shropshire, England75; d. 25 January 1682/83, Frodesley, Shropshire, England76; m. SUSAN NEDHAM, 1652, Frodesley, Shropshire, England77; d. 04 September 1667, Frodesley, Shropshire, England78.
  Notes for RICHARD SCRIVEN:
Richard was the last of the Scrivens to hold the overlordship of Frodesley Manor.
With no male heir, this terminated the direct male line of the Scrivens of Frodesley. The manor then passed to Richard's son-in-law, Roger Whitley, who had married Richard and Susan's daughter, Margaret, in 1678. Susan died 4 September 1667.
     
Child of SIR THOMAS SCRIVEN is:
  vii.   JOHN11 SCRIVEN, b. 27 October 1623, Wem, Shropshire, England79; d. 02 October 1675, Dover, Strafford, NH80; m. MARY ???, Abt. 1655, Dover, Strafford, NH81,82.
  Notes for JOHN SCRIVEN:
The birth of John Scriven is recorded on page 51 of Part 1 of the Parish Register for Wem, Shropshire County, England [op. cit]. The original entry reads : "1623, Oct. 27. John, s. of Thomas [Skeinen?], sawyer bap." The question about Thomas' last name is answered on page xvi. of Part 2 (one of the pages where corrections are noted), where it is stated: "Page 51, Line 18. For 'Skeinen,' read 'Skriven.'"
In that Wem Register, the mothers' names are not listed, so we do not know the name of John's mother, which is another of the important but unanswered questions about John.
Among those important but unanswered questions are these: If his mother had been Margaret Corbett, wouldn't that mean that John was the rightful heir to the Lordship of Frodesley? But, he didn't follow his father in that position. His younger half-brother, Richard did. Why was that so, and was that the reason for John's departure for the New World?
If John was illegitimate (as we claim that he was), wouldn't that mean that he was ineligible to follow his father as Lord of Frodesley Manor? Also, with his half-brother as the Lord, wouldn't that have been an intolerable situation for John to be in, causing him to leave England forever?
In 1644, England was in the midst of its Civil War (see below), and John, at age 21, was of age to be a soldier. Did he leave England in order to avoid having to fight in the War?
Why would John have had a sword in his possession [see the account of the inventory of his property taken at his death]? It's understandable that an average citizen would have a musket [as John had], but A SWORD! Wouldn't that give stronger evidence to the claim that John was the son of a knight and colonel in the King's Army, namely, Sir Thomas Scriven?
And, of course, the central question of all: Was the John Scriven born in Wem in October 1623 the son of Sir Thomas Scriven AND the founder of our Scribner family in America? We believe that he was, although, we admit, it is impossible to provide conclusive proof of this claim.

John Scriven came into this world at a time when his homeland--England--was undergoing enormous social and political upheaval.
To begin with, that small group of religious Separatists (better known as Pilgrims) had left for the New World and had, in 1620, landed at Plymouth Rock in Massachusetts Colony. Many more English families would soon follow, taking from England many of its citizens and future leaders.
At the same time, England was about to endure its first-ever Civil War, a war that would change the way of life in England forever, and affect the Scriven family in a very personal way.
James I, King of England at the time of John's birth, died in March 1625. James' last years as ruler had been marked by continual dissension, and quarreling over many issues with the elected Parliament. Also, England was on the brink of war with Spain, and the kingdom's finances were shattered. It was hoped that the new king, James' son, Charles I (who was 25 when he became king), would ease the tensions and turn England toward better and brighter days. But, it was not to be.
Within two years of his ascending to the throne, Charles was on very bad terms with Parliament (continually quarreling over the questions of who held the authority to raise taxes and muster armies, etc.), the kingdom was in serious financial trouble, and England was at war with both Spain and France! Charles dissolved one Parliament after another (1625, 1627, 1628, 1629) and ruled on his own authority.
The making of peace with France in 1629, and with Spain in 1630, provided but a brief respite from armed conflict. In 1641, quarrels with Scotland and uprisings in Ireland led England to again prepare for military action. Leaders of the so-called Long Parliament (assembled in 1640) said that troops could only be raised under officers approved by Parliament. King Charles vehemently disagreed, and set about to raise his own army. As sides began to form in this dispute, the king was generally supported by the nobility, the landed gentry (such as the Scrivens of Frodesley and the newly-knighted Thomas Scriven, who was given the rank of colonel), and the Catholics. The Parliament was supported by merchants, the middle classes and the lower order of the great towns. Thus, the struggle for power began, pitting the Parliament and their army against the king and his army, in a Civil War that would last until 26 April 1646, when the defeated Charles left England and was imprisoned in Scotland. However, it wasn't long before Charles returned to England, where he was essentially under house arrest. He escaped to the Isle of Wight. Then, a much shorter Civil War was waged throughout 1648. After that, the English leaders and their armies came to the conclusion that permanent peace would be impossible as long as Charles was alive. On 30 January 1649 Charles I, King of England, was executed.

It was at about this time that John Scriven--The Immigrant--came to the Colonies. We don't know when, or on which ship, he made that historic journey across the Atlantic Ocean (Existing records list hundreds of persons who, for one reason or another, left England for the Colonies. However, there are other hundreds [John among them] who made that trip but for whom no record of passage exists). It's possible that he came by way of Barbados. Several persons did, for the reason suggested by the following quote:

"In those days emigrants to New England and Virginia from England had to take an oath of allegiance and [religious] conformity, before they were allowed to leave. In going to Barbadoes or Bermuda, these oaths were not required, consequently many emigrants shipped to Bermuda and Barbadoes and from there came to Virginia and New England" (Frederick Sylvester Stevens [comp.], GENEALOGY OF THE STEVENS FAMILY FROM 1635 TO 1891 [Bridgeport, CT: J.H. Coggswell, Printer, 1891], 7).

John was accepted as an inhabitant of Dover on 5 April 1662 (Alonzo Hall Quint [contrib.], "Extracts From Dover Town Records," NEHGR, 4 [Boston: Samuel G. Drake, Publishers, 1850], 249). He settled in an area just to the northeast of Dover Town known as "Cocheco," where he had a small farm of 20 acres. It was in September of 1662 that he paid his first taxes (John Scales, COLONIAL ERA HISTORY OF DOVER, NEW HAMPSHIRE [1923. Reprint. Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, Inc., 1977], 242). According to the Inventory of his possessions, listed following his death, John owned a hay barn with 20 acres of land, a few animals (2 oxen, 4 cows, 1 calf, 3 sheep, 1 lamb, 1 mare, a yearling colt and 6 hogs), farm implements and household goods (Inventory of John Scriven's Property, dated 8 October 1675). Of much interest is the fact that there is also listed 1 musket and sword! Most likely these had belonged to John's father, Sir Thomas Scriven, and John had brought them with him to the Colonies.

We have no record of Mary's maiden name or the dates of her birth and death. It had been commonly believed that she was a daughter of Edward Hilton of Dover. However, that assumption has been shown to be incorrect. Edward Hilton had two daughters, neither of whom was named Mary. One of the daughters, Susannah, married Christopher Palmer. The other daughter, Sobriety, married Henry Moulton (Noyes, GENEALOGICAL DICTIONARY OF MAINE AND NEW HAMPSHIRE [op. cit.], 332). One historian, Rev. J. Woodbury Scribner, states that "The Widow Mary lived on for 25 years after the death of her husband" (Sinnett, SCRIBNER FAMILIES [op. cit.], 18).
Their son, Edward, was impressed into the English Navy in 1679 (Noyes, 615). No further information about Edward is known.




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