FORUM ARTICLES SEARCH
Home > Forum > General > Medieval

Audrey Barlow to Geoffrey de Say Magna Carta Baron?

By Justin Maitland August 07, 2012 at 01:07:20

I found no proof that Audrey Barlow through Margaret Fogge (m. Sir Humphrey Stafford) traces back to Geoffrey de Say (d. 1230) or Richard de Clare (Another Magna Carta Baron). Here is Margaret's ancestry:

1. Margaret Fogge m. Sir Humphrey Stafford (b. May 1, 1478 d. September 22, 1545)
2. Alice Haute m. Sir John Fogge
3. Joan Wydeville m. Sir William Haute (d.1462)
4. Joan Bittlesgate m. Sir Richard Wydeville (d. 1441)
5. Joan Beauchamp (d. between 1381 and 1388) m. Thomas Bittlesgate (d. between 1389 and 1391)
6. Sir John Beauchamp (living in 1396) m. Joan Bridport (d. of John Biport of White Lackington, Somersetshire Co., England)
7. Sir Hugh Beauchamp (d. about 1337 in prob. Lillesdon, Somersetshire Co., England) m. Idonea de Lisle
8. Sir Humphrey de Beauchamp (d. about 1313 in prob. Ryme, Dorsetshire Co., England) m. Sybil Oliver
9. Alice de Mohun(d. by 1284) m. Robert Beauchamp (d. about 1263)
10. Hawise FitzGeoffrey (d. by 1243) m. Sir Reynold de Mohun (c.1206 d. January 20, 1258 at Torre Mohun, Devonshire Co., England)
11. Aveline de Clare (d. before June 4, 1225) m. Geoffrey de Piers (d. October 14, 1213)
12. Roger de Clare 2nd Earl of Hertford (after 1115 to 1173) and Maud de St. Hilare (1132 to 1195)
13. Richard FitzGilbert de Clare Lord of Clare (before 1100 in probably Wales to 4-15-1136 in Grwyney Forest in Abergavenney, Wales who was slain by Welsh) and Adeliza de Meschines
14. Alice de Clermont m. Gilbert FitzRichard de Clare Lord of Clare, Tonbridge, Cardigan (1107 to 1111) (before 1066 in Normandy, France to c.1115 in probably Wales)
15. Margaret de Montdidier m. Count Hugh de Clermont
16. Alix de Roucy m. Count Hildouin de Rameru (of Montdidier, France)
17. Beatrix of Hainault m. Count Elbes I of Roucy
18. Hedwig of France m. Count Regnier IV of Hainault
19. Hugh Capet King of France (d. 10-24-996 in Normandy, France) m. Adelaide de Poitou
20. Hugh Magnus Count of Paris (d. 6-954 in France) m. Hedwig of Saxony
21. Beatrix de Vermandois m. Robert I King of France (d. 6-15-923 in France)
22. Count Herbert I de Vermandois m. Bertha de Movois
23. Count Pepin de Vermandois
24. Bernard King of Italy (b. 797 d. 4-17-818 in Milan, Italy) m. Cunigunde
25. Pepin King of Italy (Christened 4-12-781 in Rome, Italy d. 7-8-810 in Milan, Italy)
26. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Sir Reynold de Mohun (c.1206 d. January 20, 1258 at Torre Mohun, Devonshire Co., England) m. Hawise FitzGeoffrey (d. by 1243)
2. Sir Reynold de Mohun (d. 1213) m. Alice de Briwere (daughter of William de Briwere and Beatrix de Vaux)
3. William de Mohun (d. October 1193) m. Lucy (d. after 1201)
4. William de Mohun (d. 1176) m. Godehaut de Toeni (d. of Roger de Toeni III and Ida of Hainault)
5. Agnes de Gaunt m. William de Mohun (d. about 1155)
6. Walter de Gaunt (d. 1139)
7. Gilbert de Ghent (d. about 1095) m. Alice de Montfort (d. of Hugh De Montfort)
8. Gisele de Luxembourg (living in 1058) m. Rudolph “Ralph” de Ghent (living in 1058)
9. Frederick Count of Luxembourg (d. 10-6-1019) m. Ermentrude of Gleiberg
10. Sigfried Count of Luxembourg (d. 10-28-998) m. Hedwig of Saxony (d. 12-13-992)
11. Kunigunde m. Richwin Count of Verdun
12. Ermentrude of France and unknown
13. Louis II King of France (9-1-844 to 4-10-879 in Compiegne, Ois, France) m. Adelaide of Paris
14. Charles II “The Bald” Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (6-13-823 in Frankfurt, Germany to 10-6-877 in near. Mt. Cenis in the Alps) m. Ermentrude of Orleans
15. Emperor Louis “The Fair” of the Holy Roman Empire (8-877 to 6-20-840 near Mainz, France) m. Judith of Bavaria
16. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Ida of Hainault (d. after 1162) m. Roger de Toeni III
2. Baudouin III Count of Hainault (d. 1120 in Hainault, Belgium) m. Yolande de Guelders
3. Baudouin II Count of Hainault (d. 1099 in Holy Land) m. Ida de Louvain (d. 1139)
4. Baudouin VI Count of Flanders (d. July 7, 1070 in Abbey of Hasnon, Belgium) m. Richilde von Egisheim
5. Baudouin V Count of Flanders (d. September 1, 1067 in Lille, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France) m. Adela Princess of France
6. Baudouin VI Count of Flanders (d. May 30, 1036 in Flanders, France) m. Ogive de Luxembourg (d. of Frederick Count of Luxembourg and Ermentrude of Gleiberg)
7. Arnoul II Count of Flanders (b. December 961 in Flanders, France d. March 30, 987) m. Susanna (d. of Berenger II King of Italy)
8. Baudouin III Count of Flanders (d. January 962) m. Mathilde of Saxony
9. Arnoul I Count of Flanders (d. March 964) m. Alix de Vermandois
10. Baudouin II “The Bald” Count of Flanders (d. 9-10-918) m. Elfrida Princess of England (d. of Alfred “The Great” King of England)
11. Judith Princess of France (d. 870) m. Baudouin I Count of Flanders (d. 879 in Flanders, France)
12. Charles II “The Bald” Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (6-13-823 in Frankfurt, Germany to 10-6-877 in near. Mt. Cenis in the Alps) m. Ermentrude of Orleans
13. Louis I Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (8-778 in Chassenueil, nr. Mainzto 6-20-840 in Petersaue, Eine Insel em Rhein, Nahe Ingelheim) m. Judith of Bavaria
14. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (4-2-742 to 1-28-814 in Aix la Chapelle (Aachen)) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Adela of France (c.1009 to 1-8-1079 in Monastre de l'Ordre de St. Benoist, Messines) m. Baudouin V Count of Flanders
2. Constance de Provence m. Robert II King of France
3. William Count of Arles and Provence (c.952 to 994 in Avignon, France) and Adelaide de Anjou (d. of Fulk II Count of Anjou and Gerberga)
4. Constance de Provence m. Boso Count of Anjou and Provence (d. bet. 965 and 967)
5. Charles Constantine Count of Vienne (d.c.1-961/62) and Teutberg
6. Louis III Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (c.883 d. 6-5-928 in Provence, France) and Anna of Byzantium
7. Emengarde m. Boso King of Provence and Burgandy
8. Louis II Emperor of The Holy Roman Empire (c.825 to 8-12-875 in Brescia, Italy) and Engelberge
9. Lothaire I Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (c.795 in Altdorf, Bavaria to 9-29-955 in Pruem, Rhineland) and Emengarde of Tours
10. Louis I Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (8-778 in Chassenuiel or Meinz, France to 6-20-840 in Petersaue, Eine Insel em Rhein, Nahe Ingelheim) and Emengarde of Hesbaye (d. of Ingerman of Hesbaye, Belgium)
11. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (4-2-742 in prob. Germany to 1-28-814 in Aix la Chapelle (Aachen), France) and Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Robert II King of France (d. 7-20-1031 in Normandy, France) m. Constance of Provence
2. Hugh Capet King of France (d. 10-24-996 in Normandy, France) m. Adelaide de Poitou
3. Hugh Magnus Count of Paris (d. 6-954 in France) m. Hedwig of Saxony
4. Beatrix de Vermandois m. Robert I King of France (d. 6-15-923 in France)
5. Count Herbert I de Vermandois m. Bertha de Movois
6. Count Pepin de Vermandois
6. Bernard King of Italy (b. 797 d. 4-17-818 in Milan, Italy) m. Cunigunde
7. Pepin King of Italy (Christened 4-12-781 in Rome, Italy d. 7-8-810 in Milan, Italy)
8. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Ida de Louvain (d. 1139) m. Baudouin II Count of Hainault (d. 1099 in Holy Land)
2. Henry of Brabant Count of Louvain and Lorraine m.Adelaide de Orlamunda
3. Lambert Count of Brabant and Louvain m. Oda of Lorraine
4. Lambert Count of Brabant and Louvain m. Gerberga of Lorraine
6. Count Regnier III of Hainault m. Adele of Lovaine
6. Count Regnier II of Hainault m. Adelaide of Burgandy
7. Count Regnier I of Hainault m. Albebrade
8. Helletrude (Emengarde) of Lorraine m. Giselbert Count of Darnau
9. Lothaire I King of Italy (d. 9-29-855 in Pruem, Germany) m. Emengarde of Tours (sister of Adelaide de Tours)
10. Emperor Louis “The Fair” of the Holy Roman Empire (8-877 to 6-20-840 near Mainz, France) m. Emengarde of Hesbaye
11. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700 : lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and other historical individuals / by Frederick Lewis Weis & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th ed., with additions and corrections / by William R. & Kaleen E. Beall. Baltimore, Md. : Genealogical Pub. Co., 2004, Line 143, pp. 136-138.
2. A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct peerages of the British empire / by Sir Bernard Burke. New ed., 1883. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., reprint 1978. CP 4:193.                                                 3. English baronies: a study of their origin and descent, 1086-1327 / Ivor J. Sanders. Oxford, UK : Clarendon Press, 1963 ; London : Oxford University Press, 1960.                                                  4. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, Band II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Häuser der Übrigen Staaten Europas, 1984.        5. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant / by George E. Cockayne. Microprint ed. Gloucester : A. Sutton, 1982-1998. 14 v. in 7.                                          
6. The Magna Charta sureties, 1215: the barons name in the Magna Charta, 1215, and some of their descendants who settled in America during the early Colonial years / by Frederick Lewis Weis. 5th ed., with additions and corrections / by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., with William R. Beall. Baltimore, Md. : Genealogical Pub. Co.,1999 line 153A, pp. 185-186.
7. The baronage of England / William Dugdale. Hildesheim ; New York : G. Olms, 1977. 2 v.
8. The Conqueror and his companions / J. R. Planche. London : Tinsley brothers, 1874. 2v.
9. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant / by George E. Cockayne. Microprint ed. Gloucester : A. Sutton, 1982-1998. 14 v. in 7.
10. Domesday descendants : a prosopography of persons occurring in English documents, 1066-1166 / K.S.B. Keats-Rohan. Woodbridge, Suffolk; Rochester, NY: Boydell Press, 1999-2002. 2 v.
11. The royal descents of 600 immigrants to the American colonies or the United States : who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history / Gary Boyd Roberts. Baltimore, Md. : Genealogical Pub. Co., 2004.
12. Rubincam, "The house of Brabant: ancestry of Philippa of Hainault, wife of Edward III," TAG 25:224-32.
13. Von Redlich, Marcellus Donald Alexander R., "Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I", Genealogical Publishing Co., 1941.

1. Godehaut de Toeni m. William de Mohun (d. 1176)
2. Roger de Toeni III (d. February 1162) m. Ida of Hainault (d. of Baldwin III Count of Hainault)
3. Alice de Huntingdon m. Ralph de Toeni IV Lord of Flamstead (d. about 1126)
4. Judith of Lens m. Waltheof Siwardson Earl of Huntingdon (d. May 31, 1076 in Beheaded at Winchester, Hampshire, England)
5. Lambert Count of Lens (d. 1054 in Flanders, France) m. Adelaide of Normandy (d. of Robert II Duke of Normandy and Harleve de Falaise)
6. Maud de Louvain m. Eustache Count of Boulogne (d. 1049)
7. Lambert Count of Brabant and Louvain m. Gerberga of Lorraine
6. Count Regnier III of Hainault m. Adele of Lovaine
7. Count Regnier II of Hainault m. Adelaide of Burgandy
8. Count Regnier I of Hainault m. Albebrade
9. Helletrude (Emengarde) of Lorraine m. Giselbert Count of Darnau
10. Lothaire I King of Italy (d. 9-29-855 in Pruem, Germany) m. Emengarde of Tours (sister of Adelaide de Tours)
11. Emperor Louis “The Fair” of the Holy Roman Empire (8-877 to 6-20-840 near Mainz, France) m. Emengarde of Hesbaye
12. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

1. Gerberga of Lorraine m. Lambert Count of Brabant
2. Charles of Lorraine Duke of Lower Lorraine m. Adelheid
3. Louis IV King of France (c.919 to 9-10-954) m. Gerberga of Saxony (d. of Henry I “The Fowler” of Saxony)
4. Charles III “The Simple” King of France (9-17-879 to 10-7-929) m. Eadgifu of England (d. of Edward I “The Elder” King of England son of Alfred “The Great” King of England)
5. Louis II King of France (9-1-844 to 4-10-879 in Compiegne, Ois, France) m. Adelaide of Paris
6. Charles II “The Bald” Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (6-13-823 in Frankfurt, Germany to 10-6-877 in near. Mt. Cenis in the Alps) m. Ermentrude of Orleans
7. Emperor Louis “The Fair” of the Holy Roman Empire (8-877 to 6-20-840 near Mainz, France) m. Judith of Bavaria
8. Charlemagne Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (b. c. 742 d. 1-28-814 in Aix-de-Chapelle, France) m. Hildegarde of Linzgau

Waltheof Siwardson Earl of Huntingdon (d. May 31, 1076 in Beheaded at Winchester, Hampshire, England) is the son of Siward Biornsson Earl of Northumbria (b. c. 1005 in Denmark d. 1055 in East Riding, York Co., England) and Elfreda of Northumbria (d. before 1055).


No replies.

Sitemap Terms Privacy FAQ
© 2023 Genealogy.com