Thanks for the responses/help--I think you may be right about there being two families, but I was unable to find either one of them in Oulu or Paavola Rippikirja records, and not all of them are accessible to me on FFHA or HisKi sites. I had found some information on the parents you cited but couldn't quite fit them with the children that I was researching, which now may make more sense... 1) In Oulu Rippikirja v. IAa36 EE 1881-1890 W-Ö s. 364 (LDS fiche 6379584), I did find Juho Tuomonp Wiitala 12.10.59 Wihanti and Kaisa Tobiant. Suorsa 28.02.61 Säräisniemi; ifra 1886, v. 18.7.86 2) and in Oulu Rippikirja v. IAa38 GG 1881-1890 P-Y (LDS fiche 6379602), I found Wiitala, Juho Tuomannp 12.10.89, BUT there is also a notation "Kull. 23.07.1889, börnlos (doesn't this mean that he died childless??). 3) I did not have fiche or online acess for Lastenkirja- could you possibly send me the image with children, Jenny, Hanna, and Naemi, that you mentioned (as screen scrape, jpg picture file, etc ?). 4) Did you find actual Oulu birth records for Naima and Kaisa, or were they just listed in Lastenkirja? 5) I've found no Finnish parish records at all yet for the 3 other chldren must siblings of different parents (in Paavola?). 6) Do you know of any Finnish city directory and/or death records which might help identify the Kaisa W, mother of Hanna and Naemi, whose address was listed in an immigration record in Oulu city?
Feel free to respond by email. thanks again. Bill Austin,TX