In reply to:
lee wilson 12/10/06
Patricia, there was no country Poland back at the time when Max, Walter and Erich Treumann were born!In the late 18th century, Poland was partitioned three times -- in 1772, 1793 and 1795.The three partitions divided Poland among Russia (which got the lion's share by far), the German state of Prussia, and Austria.Poland thereupon disappeared from the map as an independent nation for almost 125 years, until the western Allies re-established an independent Poland following World War I.
Max, Walter and Erich Treumann were thus born in GERMANY, just like the other siblings were.
They were born in the town of Jutroschin in the District (in German: Kreis) of Rawitsch, located in the southern part of what was until 1918 the Prussian province of Posen, the capital of which was the city of Posen (in Polish: Poznan).
Jutroschin is now known by the Polish name Jutrosin.The small city of Rawitsch, the seat of the former "Kreis", is now known by the Polish name Rawicz.
Here is the link to a map of Germany as it was from its unification under Bismarck in 1871 until 1918.You will see Germany's states -- (like the U.S., Germany has always been made up of states) -- including Prussia (in German: Preussen; capital: Berlin), Germany's largest state by far, and its provinces.In the east, you will see the Prussian province of Posen, which covered an area slightly larger than that covered by the U.S. state of Massachusetts.The city of Posen (Poznan), the province's capital, was located more or less in the middle of the province.Kreis Rawitsch, in which Jutroschin was located, was in the southern part of the province, directly south of the "o" in the word "Posen", and bordered on what was until 1945 the Prussian province of Silesia (in German: Schlesien).In 1919, following World War I, Germany had to cede most of the Prussian provinces of Posen and West Prussia to the re-established independent Poland.But when Max, Walter and Erich Treumann were born, Posen was part of Germany.You will also note how vast the German state of Prussia was.It stretched from East Prussia in the northeast all the way to and including the Rhineland in the west.That's a distance of close to 900 miles!
You don't mention places of birth for any of Jakob's wives, and place of death only for his second wife Mathilde, who you say died in Königsberg.There were two cities of that name:There was the very well-known Königsberg, which was the capital of what was until 1945 the Prussian province of East Prussia (in German: Ostpreussen).This Königsberg is known today by the Russian name Kaliningrad.There was also a city called Königsberg located in the "Neumark", which was the eastern part of what was until 1945 the Prussian province of Brandenburg.This Königsberg is known today by the Polish name Chojna.Do you know which of the two Königsbergs Mathilde died in?
The Treumann family's origins seem to lie, in any event, in eastern Germany.Would you have any idea then how Jakob Treumann came to have died several hundred miles to the southwest, in the city of Schwetzingen in northern Baden in southwestern Germany?I don't think you're going to have any luck finding out information about any of his siblings without having some idea as to what town he was born in.Although he died way down in Schwetzingen, I would assume he was born in eastern Germany somewhere.(Do you know where children Lutzi, Kurt and Martin were born?)