Hello Mary! Hope you're well. Thank you again for your email of 16 Apr 2012. It's really been a good brain teaser!
Lots to share. Hope you're still around! Please be patient as I try to explain my logic. It's a bit circuitous but I think the bottom line may be correct. I'd love your opinion. Thank you.
* I sent a request to the State Archives regarding TURENCZAK, etc in Jablonka. I received a "you're out of luck" email. : - (
* After reading and re-reading your last post, I checked my sources very carefully. The Hryc TURYNCZAK (husband of Kata, and father to Pazia) I believe is 99.9% the same man as Gregor TURENCZAK who went to Jersey City in 1905 to see his brother, Wasyl. I don't think they're from two different families.
* I finally based this hypothesis on the fact (other than both men coming from same area), that Hryc and Gregor are related names AND that BOTH Gregor TURENCZAK and Hyrc TURYNCZAK entered Ellis Island with the remark "CLUB FOOT."
* It would be _such_ a coincidence that these two men weren't the same man! Everything looked the same, but the club foot annotation kind of put it over the top for me. (But, you know, in genealogy stranger things have happened.)
* Wasyl Turenczak did live in PA in 1898 (where Hryc was headed to see brother Wasyl and his sister in Scranton, PA.
ALSO, when Gregor TURENCZAK came to USA in 1905 to see brother in Jersey City, well, guess what? The TURENCZAK family was in Jersey City at this time. Wasyl and his wife Anna SENKO were in New York, but by 1903 their son, Stephen, was born in Jersey City, NJ.
* I emailed another archival request for TURENCZAKs to gmina Baligrod. However, and most unfortunately, their records for birth, marriage and death run from 1784-1838. Not good years for my current needs.
* Then I came across an old message from 2011 on the Ancestry Boards. The writer requested help with her tree. Her grandmother (Mary Oschip b. 1917) was the daughter of "Metro OSCHIP (OSZCZEP ??) and Piza TURENCHALK." Pisa/Piza/Paza was the daughter of "Harry TURINCHALK and Katherina WOLANA." (Hryc can be anglicized to Harry, too!) The writer continues to related that both Piza and her mother Katherina arrived at Ellis Island in November of 1907, with a LPR as Jablonki, Galicy.
* Now, based on your obvious viewing of the actual image of the Ellis Island passenger list (versus the one that EI shows of people born in Turkey and Greece!) of Kata and daughter Pazia arriving on 17 Nov 1907, you are the expert in knowing "they were going from her brother Michal DRAHUSZCZAK, in Jablonki to her husband Hryc" in Pennsylvania.
* Of course, this makes Kata's maiden DRAHUSZCZAK, if I am "doing the math" correctly. WOLANA was a mistake, as is another tree where Kata maiden name is yet another name, but all other data we have is identical.
* Then, on the 1920 Green Township, Indiana, Pennsylvania census, I am looking for OCSHIPs, and one family above is "Catherine Turanczak, widow, immigrated 1907, from Galicia, speaking "Slovak" (Ukrainian in the 1930 census)... Again, remember, her daughter Paza OCSHIP is living nearly next door.
* Then, I find information that Hyrc died 7 Apr 1919, in PA (need a primary source to verify), and that Kata (then called Catherine) died 11 Oct 1941. Hyrc's passing before the 1920 census matches, too.
* It's noted somewhere that Metro Oschip was from Smerek, gmina cisna, pow. lesko, woj. podkarpackie (or somewhere in the area). Could this mean his bride Pazia Turynczak could be from the area, too? Is this another lead?
* Finally, someone corrected the surname TURYNCHALK to TURENCZAK noting this was the original spelling of the name. I'll have to follow through with this correction.
Hryc/Gregor Turynczak/Turenczak are the same man and brother to Wasyl Turenczak. Hryc and Kata Drahuszczak married and had a daughter in about 1904 named Pazia.
Pazia name changed to Piza/Pisa/Paza while living in the States.
Hyrc, by 1910, was calling himself Harry, just as his brother, Wasyl, re-named himself William.
Today, the Turenczaks in New Jersey became Turinchaks. Not many of these people, and mostly in NJ.
No Turynczak that I could locate.
Turenchalks are the most (about 23?), all over the States.
Two main surnames TURENCHALK and TURINCHAK (the minority; seems to focus on the NJ branch) are only two different anglicized versions of the name TURENCZAK, as we know one brother went to PA, the other to NJ.
I have sent a message to the person who corrected the TURENCHALK tree. We'll see.
So, what do you think?? ; - )
Your DRAHUSZCZAK research has really helped. I wish I, too, could see the image you saw.
Also, if Kata and Michal's mother is Zuka, is this a nickname for another given name? I just can't locate it.
Have a great Sunday!
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Thanks again, Mary.