Cynthia: Thanks for the info.I already have all the kids. It is the father and 2 kids that stayed in Ky that I need info on. Appreciate all your efforts and time. Most of the info on this family that is on internet I gave to others and they posted it. Sam has been a thorn in my side for over 40yrs. Last found him 1880 Hart Co Ky after that only found his wife Octavia living with her son.Think he may have died near Rhea Co Tn no proof.