I believe that this must be my line!I'm descended from John V. Abel, b. 1808, NY, d. 9 August 1878 in Bath, Clinton County, Michigan, and his wife Sarah A. Wheaton, b. 13 January 1814 in NY, d. 23 October 1900 in Bath, Clinton County, Michigan. Please contact me for more info on their descendants.What clinches for me the fact that this must be my line, and that Oliver Abel and Anna Vermillion must be the parents of my John V. Abel, is that John V. Abel had a grandson named Lloyd Vermillion Abel! I'd love to hear from anyone who has any more information.