Sally, I'm sorry about not responding to your reply about John G Abrams in Bond Co. Illinios, but I guess I forgot that I had posted it until just resently. Since that time I have changed my internet service several times. I am now at email@example.com. The Eli Martin Abrams? that you posted may have been a son of John G Abrams, other than the census that I extracted information from put Eli Martin as born abt 1861 in Bond Co. Illinios. But I haven't been able to locate the family anywhere previous to this. I know a lot of time has elapsed since this e-mail, ( I was surprised to see it still in that data base!!) but if you have any info that could help to clarify the realtionship better, I would be greatly appreciative to you.