Nancy, my name is David S. Ager. I live in Maryland but was born and raised in NY. My dad is Donald R., son of Harold W., son of George W. Ager, born May 9, 1858. George was one of at least 10 children of Henry Ager born May 1827 and Frances Ager, born August 1826. I have NY Census from 1860 that shows George had an older brother named Charles E. Ager, born about 1855 and another brother named William Neff Ager, born December 4, 1854. William was born in Ohio. It appears that Henry and Fannie went to Ohio, reason unknown, and eventually returned to NY, or so the census information seems to indicate. I have more info on these folks but thought that the Charles E. Ager and the "Neff" middle name for William were too coincidental to what you have mentioned. Perhaps this Charles E. is one generation removed from your Charles E. It appears that there is about 31-32 years between their births?! let me know if this helps.