Could this be your Ellen Atherton? If so she married rather late and still raised a whopping family. http://tinyurl.com/7m3oa-http://tinyurl.com/7m3oa- for a photo of Ellen Atherton who married John Valentine [railway guard b Ince Lancs] and lived in Wigan area first child born 1857. Later they rented a farm at Standish to give her sons career training! Family connections to Fairclough, Ainscough,Speakman,Dawber and others- they are/were a huge and very Catholic clan famed for the Atherton Nose [see Alice Maud on photo page]. Ellen was my great grandmother and had 13 children so came of hardy prolific stock and died sometime after 1911. No doubt you've located Atherton nr Wigan as the clan's town of origin.