Re: Madelaine Badeau
about John H Badeau
"His children were Peter, Elias, John, and Frances, wife of Isaac Coutant, of New Rochelle."
Reverend Silas Constant 1787
Yes but that was a few years after the Amewrican revolution, and Madelaine was married to James Secord in new Rochelle about 1755 20 years before the AR and James fought for the British.
Why is that significant ???
That Elis listed is said to have been the father of Madelaine.
You yourself posted that family geneology back in 2010, the one that has Madelaine born to Elias in 1736 while her supposed siblings were born during the 1770s.
Elias was born in 1741 so he could not have been the father of Madelaine but he may have easily been the younger brother. Elias did have a Madelaine but she was born during the 1770s and was about 40 years younger than my Madelaine. Silas married her to James Heroy in 1790.
Whether or not Silas Constant knew there was another daughter of John does not really matter. He was family through marriage to the Badeaus. He was also a serious Patriot during the AR. If the Badeau family had struck Madelaine off and scratched her out of the Bible and the family because of her marriage to a Loyalist, and gone to Canada he would have accepted the situation for family and for his own politics.
Recently I contacted Putnam County where John last lived and died about this very problem. I was told Madelaine is listed in their books etc as the daughter of Elias. The lady read of the names of the children 177.. 177.. Madelaine 1736 married to James Secord, 177..
Wait I said you see a glaring error in that book you say is well sourced ? The lady agreed and sent me the pages from the book she was reading from. What the Badeau experts in Putnam County thought was a done deal is not.
I think what may have happened is Madelaine was disowned and any documents were distoried or altered. She just didnt exist antmore to her father. She was dead to him.
They left New Rochelle for PA in 1773 and she was a beloved daughter of the family still at that point but then later the AR happened and everythinbg changed in the relationships.
While the Secords in PA became Loyalists back in New Rochelle the other Secords and the Badeaus were Patriots.
The son of John, Elias, was a sergent in the AR a Patriot who claimed a pension later. He is listed in the DAR books and I have found accepted applications for SAR from his descendants.
The political atmosphere of New Rochelle at that time could have led to John disowning Madelaine and any other family member who were "traitors"
It was just something that happened back then.
the same for the other side.
A cousin of James Secord back in New Rochelle had been a Patriot. He even got a pension. When he joined his cousins in Canada a few years later he had to hide the fact that he had not been a Loyalist to the extreme that he got married in St Marks Church under another first name.
also John had more children but the only daughter that Silas listed was the wife of Isaac Constant, I think he was the son of Silas. Marie the wife of Jacob Helicom wasnt listed either.
It may have been that Silas listed only the children who were present at the funeral.
John Badeau and his wife Madelaine Parcot were godparents to several of the children of Madelaine Badeau and James Secord including my own Etienne/Stephen. Why would the elder Badeaus be invited to hold such an important role in the life of several of the Secord babies if they werent the grandparents ?
John H Badeau and Madelaine Parcot were either the parents of Madelaine Badeau the wife of James Secord or she had other Badeau parents, but whom ?
She is accepted as the granddaughter of John now in Badeau family lists but she only fits as his daughter.
John was born in 1699/1700 and Madelaine Parcot was born 15 May 1704.
Madelaine Badeau would have been born in 1736 to be age 18 at the birth of her first child, son Solomon born 19 March 1755. 1739 would have made her only 15, a little young, though not an impossibilty, however....
To be her grandparents John and Madelaine would have had to have a son older than their oldest Peter who wasnt born until 1728.
Do you understand how none of these variables fit ?
To blatantly dismiss Madelaine as a daughter of John, there must be another father available, and theres not.