Sorry we haven't replied earlier. We visited the Counties Records Office in Truro in '96 and looked at the marriage and parrish records for Carmenellis, very interesting but time was limited. The children of James Bartle and Jane Tresidder were James, Jane, Samuel, Minnie ( Elizabeth Ellen ) and Bertram. They had at least 7 children but the twins ( names unknown ) died while on their passage to Australia . James an Bert had a very well known bakery business in Orange ,New South Wales. James had 4 children- Dorrie, Ena (Jo), Vera and Neville. Vera and Neville were born deaf and dumb and by all accounts made quite a success of their lives after being educated at the Sydney Institute. Jane married Victor Bell and had 6 children, one who died at 12 months, Lillian, Melba, Ruby, Sidney, and Sam, now all dead. Bertram had 3 children Frank, Thora and Kevin. Minnie married Charles Stokes. They had 5 children, Phyllis, Edna, Dulcie, James and Lillian. My wifes Great Grandfather Samuel Charles married Mary Jackson. They had 2 children Reginald Charles and Marion Enid (my dear mother in law ), both now dead. I have a bit more information but there are a few gaps. Please contact me on my own email.