Yes, I did. Guess I'll just do it this way. My ggranfather was the oldest child. I'm not sure on the parents, my mother thinks his name was Henry. I don't have a name for her, but, she was born in 1851 and died in 1931. Both were born in Eienas, Germany. Carl Fredrick Theodore b. 04/02/1874 d. 04/1961,(my ggrnfr); August b. 1875; Gustar b. 1876; Anna b. 1878; Emma b. 1879; Bertha b. 1882; Martha b. 1884; Herman b. 1887; Elizabeth b. 1889; Frieda b. 1890; Henry b. 1893; Paul b. 1897. All were born in Hinter Pommern, Germany, except Henry & Paul who were born in Illinois. Whichever of my relatives made up this list, said her children were: Elmer, Alvin, Walter, Harold, Clarence, and Emil. They also had a Kenneth & Betty Jo as Herman's kids. They may have mixed them up. Did your grandfather have a sister named Betty Jo?