Ruby, the Briggs do seem to go around and around. I am lost. Roy's Dad is Raymond I was told. but no dates there. Roy was born 12-10-1906. and married Denise Pilkington. They have a son Larry Martin Briggs which is my Dad. they are in kent co. Cedar Springs, Mic. and Grand Rapids. Roy had brothers Harry L. Briggs 1902-1979 He was married to Esther Jane ? dated 11-17-1900-12-14-1983. and I think Claude was a brother of Roy as well.