Hi Shirley, Thank you for your response to David's posting. I am David's dad. My wife is a direct descendant of Richard b. abt 1600 and I do believe that the name Tamer Eliza appears in her "tree" somewhere. Please let me know what you know about this person. Also, if there is anything I can do for you, please let me know. You might want to see my $/28/00 posting also.