Re: de Lacy medieval ancestry
Hi Colleen -
Always pleased to share my research on my ancestral families. And thank you for your e-mail address.
I have been blessed with being a descendant of two 17th century English immigrants to America who have been found to have extensive noble ancestry, primarily from the medieval era. This ancestry has been long-proven and well-documented.
You can check my postings in the Gen Forum to see all the many medieval names from their ancestries that I am rsearching.
Among all those names in my files are documentation for members of the Lacy family who were at two historic events - Walter de Lacy, 1st Baron Lacy, who was recorded as being at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 (my file for him and his descendants is 10 narrative pages) and Magna Carta Surety Baron John de Lacy, Lord of Halton Castle in Cheshire and Pontefract Castle in West Yorkshire - 6 pages on he and his descendants.
My file for Walter de Lacy is not long on the Lacy family, as his daughter Maud married Sir Geoffrey de Geneville, Lord Geneville. They were the parents of Joan de Geneville, wife of Sir Roger de Mortimer, who was deep into the political intrigue and violence of the era of the despotic King Edward II, helped in his murder and was the lover of his wife, Queen Isabella. I have the whole melodrama of Joan, Roger and Isabella well-documented if you are interested.
Regarding John de Lacy, in his case also, I have not much Lacy family information as I descend from his daughter also named Maud who married Richard de Clare of the historic Clare family which goes into (also quite historic) the Despenser and Hastings families. As with Mortimer, the Despensers were advisors to Edward II and also into the political intrigue of that era for which the two most prominent Despenser family members were executed by their political enemies Roger de Mortimer and Queen Isabella. It all makes for great historic reading and is quite a medieval soap-opera. Ironically, I am a descendant of a number of lines from those folks mentioned - one line from Edward & Isabella, another from Joan de Geneville and Roger de Mortimer and still another from the Despenser family.
In my Ancestral Burial Locator file, I have narrative burial information for my ancestor, Gilbert de Lacy, died ca. 1230, who was buried in Llanthony Prima Priory in Wales; also Hugh de Lacy, whose was murdered by angry Irish locals in 1186,(the Lacys were some of the Norman conquerors of Ireland and well-hated)- his body and head being originally buried separately until in 1205 when they were joined together at St. Thomas Abbey in Dublin.
Also Magna Carta Surety Baron John de Lacy who died in 1241 and was buried at Whalley Abbey in Lancashire and Walter de Lacy, died in 1085, who was buried in Gloucester Cathedral.
In my my file titled Our Historic Ancestors and Their Domains, I have narrative information on the following:
- Hugh de Lacy (d.1186) and his connection to Carlow Castle and Trim Castle in Ireland
Maud de lacy (d.1288/89) - Ludlow Castle in Shropshire
and Walter de Lacy, (d.1241) Trim Castle in Ireland.
Before I send any files, I just want to mention that my work is typed in Microsoft Works (.wps) which is loaded on Windows Vista. Many persons with older software have a problem opening these files. In that case, if the file is small, I can usually scan it into a PDF file which about everyone can open. But if it is lengthy, I have to convert it to Rich Text which opens on Wordpad and sometime looks messy compared to Works, but is readable by most everyone.
If you know, let me know about being able to open Works files or not. If you don't know, I may send a file to your e-mail address anyway just to see.
Anyway, when responding please use my e-mail email@example.com and I will use your e-mail address next time.
And I hope there is something in all of this that might be of interest.