Re: Stephen Elder (KY, IND, IA) 1807-1898 and family - f: Jacob Elder, d.1818

Hi David,
Adding more notes to my "Lewis County Washington" webpage
for Henry Harrison ELDER (1833-1911),
of Centralia, Lewis Co, Washington,
and his father STEPHEN ELDER (1807-1898) of KY/IN/IA:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/LewisCoWa.htmhttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/LewisCoWa.htm

LDS (Familysearch.org)
Stephen C. Elder
Event(s):
Birth:09 APR 1807,,Kentucky
Death:19 OCT 1898
Parents:
Father:Jacob Elder
Mother:Nancy Colyer

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LDS
Stephen ELDER (AFN: NTL0-Z8)
Sex:M
Event(s) Birth:7 Apr 1807,,Ky
Death:19 Oct 1898 Knoxville, Marion, Ia
Burial: 21 Oct 1898 Knoxville, Marion, Ia, Concord Cem
Parents
Marriage(s)
Spouse:Ann WATSON (AFN: NTL1-0D)
Marriage:, , Prob. In

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Nancy's notes:
Adding more notes to webpage for JACOB ELDER (d. 1818)
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JacobElder1818KY.htmhttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JacobElder1818KY.htm

From the book titled:
"Families Named ELDER in East Tennessee"
by
Virginia Knight Nelson (daughter of Hazel Tallent Knight)
133 pages, Knoxville, TN 1986

Found "Jacob ELDER (d. 1818)"
in Index: Page 3, 6, 8, 9, 79, 80, 91, 97, 123

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Page 3:
Wives:
Nancy Collier[married in KY - has son Stephen in 1807]
Hannah Morehead [was married to her when he died in 1818]

m. Elizabeth Winterbowers in TN in 1809?
[more likely she is wife of ANDREW ELDER, see p. 91]

Page 6:
Will of Samuel (d. 1811)

Page 8:
Jacob to Lincoln Co KY - Matthew and Robert ELDER connection

Page 9:
Samuel's children named again from his will.

Page 79:
"JACOB ELDER FAMILY"
Resided in Sevier County, TN and Lincoln Co KY

Children:
3.1 Stephen Elder
3.2Elijah Elder (1811 -d. after 1880)
married Jane Craig (ca. 1809-1871)
3.3Hannah Elder
married Isaac Herrin
3.4John Elder

Page 80:
3. JACOB ELDER (- 1818)
Jacob Elder was a member of Dumplin Baptist Church,
which he joined by experience on 11 November 1809.
He is thought to have been the Jacob Elder who died about 1818 in Lincoln County, Kentucky.

Note at bottom of page:
"It is interesting that Jacob Elder settled in Lincoln County, Kentucky.
Robert Elder, son of Matthew (see p. 106) went to Lincoln County in 1796 and remained there until his death in 1839."

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More about Jacob:
"His will, not dated,
was probated in Lincoln County on 8 February 1818
(Will book G, p. 33).Jacob requested that his real and personal estate be sold at twenty months' credit and the amount of the sale be equally divided among his wife Hannah and his four children, Stephen, Elijah, Hannah, and John Elder, with each to receive a one-fifth part.Jacob's father-in-law, Daniel Morehead was named executor.Witnesses were John Davis, Moses Foly, and Reuben Menefee."

Children of Jacob:
3.1. Stephen Elder (perhaps son of Jacob and Nancy) [b KY]

3.2Elijah Elder (son of Jacob and Nancy)
b. 20 July 1811 in East Tennesse,
d. aft. 1880.According to the National Historical Society's History of Randolph and Macon Counties, Missouri (1884), page 1119, Elijah Elder, a farmer and stock raiser, "came to Missouri and settled in Macon County (in 1842) on the same farm he now occupies...Mr. Elder has 220 acres of extraordinary land in Ten Mile township, and is a model farmer." He was a member of the Christian Church.

3.3 Hannah Elder (probably daughter of Jacob and Hannah)
mar. Isaac Herrin on 29 March 1836, Lincoln Co KY

34. John Elder

Page 91:
6. ANDREW ELDER (-d. ca 1821)
Andrew Elder of Sevier County, Tennessee, perhaps born about 1790, was a pioneer settler in Alabama, which became a state in 1819.
After the Cherokee and Chickasaw cession, 1806-1807, the Mississippi Territorial Legislature created Madison county,
which was the first county surveyed in North Alabama.In 1809 the Federal Government began selling the land;
as much as 160 acres could be purchased for a minimum of $2 per acre. Andrew Elder bought 160 acres,
although the time and amount of his purchase is not known.However, he was evidently living in Madison County in May 1813
when his father's will was proven there.Recorded in Madison County in December 1818 is a deed from Allen Morris
to Henry Newman for $1,800 for 160 acres "originally purchased from the United States by Andrew Elder" (Deed Book E, p. 182)

By 1820 Andrew Elder and his family were living in Lawrence County, Alabama.
Lawrence County was created in 1818 by the Territorial Legislature from lands ceded
by the Cherokee and Chickasaw Indians in 1816.
According to the 1820 census of Lawrence County, the Andrew Elder household included:
Males:3 under 21 and 1 over 21
Females:1 over 21 and 1 slave

Andrew Elder died about 1821 in Lawrence County
(Jones and Gandrud, Alabama Records, vol. 22, Lawrence County, p. 10)
Elizabeth Elder was administratrix of Andrew's estate on 15 December 1821,
Lawrence County, and was probably his wife.
Recorded in Jefferson County, Tennessee, is the marriage on 10 November 1809 of
JacobElder and Elizabeth Winterbowers (see p. 80).
Since Andrew's wife was probably Elizabeth, it may have been Andrew who married Elizabeth Winterbowers and a mistake was made when the marriage was recorded.

In 1830 the Elizabeth Elder household in Lawrence County included:
Males:1 10-15, 1 15-20, and 1 20-30
Females:15-10and 1 30-40 and 1 slave 19-24

The names of the children of Andrew and Elizabeth are not known.
In the 1840 Lawrence County census only one of the Elder name is listed:
William S. Elder, age 20-30, probably a son of Andrew and Elizabeth.
With Williams S. was a female, age 15-20, perhaps his wife or his sister.
According to the 1850 census there were no Elders in Lawrence County;
they had evidently moved away.

Page 97:
RE: DUMPLIN BAPTIST CHURCH (from page 96)
...Probably the first of the Elder name to join Dumplin Church was Jacob, who was received by experience in November 1809.....

Page 123: Jacob ELLER may be confused with Jacob ELDER (see page 80).
For that reason these notes on Jacob Eller of Jefferson County, Tennessee, and his family are included....he .probably died before 1830....

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Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
[email protected]