Thank u for the info. Yes we are in the Akron area my mother in law lives her to. I have some birthdates dont know if they'll be of any help but they might. Norm Sr'shad 3 children Norman Fetterman Jr b. Feb 21,1934 d. Feb. 26, 2002. Virgina (Fetterman)Miliken b. Sept. 12th, 1936, Carol (Fetterman)Varnam b. April 21, 1945 hope this is of some use to u.