Re: John Fly, bro to Elisha -Need book look
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Re: John Fly, bro to Elisha -Need book look
James Whitney Fly 10/18/99
Good Day, Joyce,
I address your query about a book, "Oklahoma, the First Hundred Years". You tell me that it has material in it from my friend Valera Aud. You may know that she died about a year ago.I have the exact date in her 'person file', but no access to it in the middle of this reply to you (different program).
I address your query about a book, "Oklahoma, the First Hundred Years". You tell me that it has material in it from my friend Valera Aud. You may know that she died about a year ago.I have the exact date in her 'person file', but no access to it in the middle of this reply to you (different program).I do NOT have the book or the material as it appears in the book, but I have something written up by Valera, consisting of 14 pages of double-spaced lines which are titled, "The Way it Was", by Valera Aud.I will quote the opening lines. See if they match.
I do NOT have the book or the material as it appears in the book, but I have something written up by Valera, consisting of 14 pages of double-spaced lines which are titled, "The Way it Was", by Valera Aud.I will quote the opening lines. See if they match."My father, Anderson Beauregarde Fly (known all his life as B. Fly) born July 15, 1860, near Water Valley, Yallobusha County, Mississippi, was one of 12 children born to Elijah Kirkman Fly and Isabelle "Tibbie" Scott Fly.Only six of the children lived to be adults.The hardships of the Civil War followed by the trials of "carpet bag and scalawag" rule, left the state without schools, churches; and suffering from hunger and disease.Papa's mother and father died a week apart in 1870. The children were scattered among relatives.etc, etc."
"My father, Anderson Beauregarde Fly (known all his life as B. Fly) born July 15, 1860, near Water Valley, Yallobusha County, Mississippi, was one of 12 children born to Elijah Kirkman Fly and Isabelle "Tibbie" Scott Fly.Only six of the children lived to be adults.The hardships of the Civil War followed by the trials of "carpet bag and scalawag" rule, left the state without schools, churches; and suffering from hunger and disease.Papa's mother and father died a week apart in 1870. The children were scattered among relatives.etc, etc."You will be able to tell from the above if the texts seem to match. If you do NOT have this text, I will be happy to make you a set of copied-pages and mail them to you "snail-mail".By the same token, if the texts DON'T match, I'd be obliged for a copy of YOUR text.As soon as you advise whether or not you would benefit from the suggested mailing by me, I will prepare a set of copies for you and mail them.I realize that your situation may NOT be such that you can mail or otherwise send something to me. If you can't conveniently send anything out, it will be O.K.Just let me know, and I will send a copy of THIS text, if it turns out you have a different one, and would like a copy of THIS one. I WILL NEED YOUR MAILING ADDRESS, which I do not presently have.
You will be able to tell from the above if the texts seem to match. If you do NOT have this text, I will be happy to make you a set of copied-pages and mail them to you "snail-mail".By the same token, if the texts DON'T match, I'd be obliged for a copy of YOUR text.As soon as you advise whether or not you would benefit from the suggested mailing by me, I will prepare a set of copies for you and mail them.I realize that your situation may NOT be such that you can mail or otherwise send something to me. If you can't conveniently send anything out, it will be O.K.Just let me know, and I will send a copy of THIS text, if it turns out you have a different one, and would like a copy of THIS one. I WILL NEED YOUR MAILING ADDRESS, which I do not presently have.I was NOT intending to "name-drop" when I said that Valera was my friend.The fact of the matter is that she and Tom Lincoln and Vivian and I were correspondents all those years ago (1960's) and in the most recent years leading up to, first, Ed Aud's death and then to hers, she invited me to Oklahoma City to drive her and Ed to the annual Fly-family reunion at Lake Texoma (on the OK/TX border) and to participate in the reunion there. The invitation was extended about three months before the planned event; and in the interim Valera had one of the misadventures with her health that became more frequent, leading up to the date of her death.I talked to her on the phone and suggested that it would be unthinkable for me to continue the plan to come to OK City and pursue the matter.She said that it was true that she and Ed would no longer plan to attend the reunion, but she said that she, personally, wanted me to come on to get in a visit in her home the night before and the night after the reunion.She had arranged for a relative to pick me up and to pick up Dr. Claude Fly's widow and daughter at the airport.We would then be driven to Texoma for the reunion.She said that she'd brook NO refusal; it was a "done-deal" in regard to the arrangements. So I went.
I was NOT intending to "name-drop" when I said that Valera was my friend.The fact of the matter is that she and Tom Lincoln and Vivian and I were correspondents all those years ago (1960's) and in the most recent years leading up to, first, Ed Aud's death and then to hers, she invited me to Oklahoma City to drive her and Ed to the annual Fly-family reunion at Lake Texoma (on the OK/TX border) and to participate in the reunion there. The invitation was extended about three months before the planned event; and in the interim Valera had one of the misadventures with her health that became more frequent, leading up to the date of her death.I talked to her on the phone and suggested that it would be unthinkable for me to continue the plan to come to OK City and pursue the matter.She said that it was true that she and Ed would no longer plan to attend the reunion, but she said that she, personally, wanted me to come on to get in a visit in her home the night before and the night after the reunion.She had arranged for a relative to pick me up and to pick up Dr. Claude Fly's widow and daughter at the airport.We would then be driven to Texoma for the reunion.She said that she'd brook NO refusal; it was a "done-deal" in regard to the arrangements. So I went.I will in the next twelve months be trying to tie up the loose ends to place a set of EIGHT volumes of sequential-by-record-number Fly-family records with an index in EACH volume (page-numbers provided) and a "whole-opus" index in volume eight, whereby ALL 10,000 are indexed and the Record Number provided.Also the father's name in each case. The placement is to be in the Oklahoma State Archives and Library in tribute to Minta Valera (Fly) Aud, daughter of Anderson Beauregarde and Josiphene (Lowry) Fly.I am also committed to furnish to her branch's Historian a set for their use, just like the set described.
I will in the next twelve months be trying to tie up the loose ends to place a set of EIGHT volumes of sequential-by-record-number Fly-family records with an index in EACH volume (page-numbers provided) and a "whole-opus" index in volume eight, whereby ALL 10,000 are indexed and the Record Number provided.Also the father's name in each case. The placement is to be in the Oklahoma State Archives and Library in tribute to Minta Valera (Fly) Aud, daughter of Anderson Beauregarde and Josiphene (Lowry) Fly.I am also committed to furnish to her branch's Historian a set for their use, just like the set described.I MUST find time or MAKE time to carry out these commitments; hence my wish to cut down on the necessity, out of civility, of proving and re-proving DETAILS of my Hypothesis, until I can discharge my responsibilities to the memory of Valera. She was a VERY GREAT LADY! I can shamelessly stand up and say, "I loved this family member like a sister."
I MUST find time or MAKE time to carry out these commitments; hence my wish to cut down on the necessity, out of civility, of proving and re-proving DETAILS of my Hypothesis, until I can discharge my responsibilities to the memory of Valera. She was a VERY GREAT LADY! I can shamelessly stand up and say, "I loved this family member like a sister."Do NOT misunderstand, PLEASE.I WANT to address YOUR fundamental questions and, to the extent your views, based on data acceptible to your sense of "right and proper interpretation", will allow it, I want to enlist your considerable ability to the desireable end of "well-reasoned" interpretation of the data.
Do NOT misunderstand, PLEASE.I WANT to address YOUR fundamental questions and, to the extent your views, based on data acceptible to your sense of "right and proper interpretation", will allow it, I want to enlist your considerable ability to the desireable end of "well-reasoned" interpretation of the data.Now to address another of your questions. About the 640 acres that Elisha bought in west Tennessee.I am pretty sure that Bonnie has already posted this, for which I'm certain we both thank her for her helpfulness.Your mention of "Murphy" in connection with THIS deed, however, leads me to mention that YET ANOTHER Deed earlier involved TWO tracts of land, 640 acres each, that "Rev." John Fly bought from Hardy Murfree in Maury Co., TN about 1807/8 (again I'm not stopping to confirm specifics, when that's NOT the point).In relation to THAT purchase, Jeremiah co-signed the note, but apparently did not participate in the ownership.There is a document wherein the Executor/Administrater (of Hardy Murfree's estate) called on the court to order final settlement of the debt by John and Jeremiah Fly.
Now to address another of your questions. About the 640 acres that Elisha bought in west Tennessee.I am pretty sure that Bonnie has already posted this, for which I'm certain we both thank her for her helpfulness.Your mention of "Murphy" in connection with THIS deed, however, leads me to mention that YET ANOTHER Deed earlier involved TWO tracts of land, 640 acres each, that "Rev." John Fly bought from Hardy Murfree in Maury Co., TN about 1807/8 (again I'm not stopping to confirm specifics, when that's NOT the point).In relation to THAT purchase, Jeremiah co-signed the note, but apparently did not participate in the ownership.There is a document wherein the Executor/Administrater (of Hardy Murfree's estate) called on the court to order final settlement of the debt by John and Jeremiah Fly.This is enough for now. I want to discuss Indians in another venue, and in reply to your separate posting.
This is enough for now. I want to discuss Indians in another venue, and in reply to your separate posting.Have a good Day,
Have a good Day,James W. Fly"Cousin Jim"