I hope things are going well in your life these days.Your postings are certainly helpful to those who do not have the Clarence Michaels "Fly-family Book". The latest posting presents a convenient vehicle for me to point out how my work on the family since 1958 has caused me to revise the early hypothesis, arrived at by Marian (Prescott) Brown, on the basis of further "finds" in the records (that Mrs. Brown needed, but did NOT have the benefit of). Members of the family who have NOT been in contact with MY work, usually quote the hypothesis of Marian P. Brown, or show it in their own analysis of the Fly material.
The most important "find" was by Rev. Norman Jason Flythe who turned up in the Northampton Co. court records in 1808 the settlement of the estate of John Fly, sen'r. who was b. ca. 1744 and died in 1804.The division of John Fly, sen'r.'s land gave us ALL of his children's names.It let us assign John Dixon Fly and Amelius (Emelius) and Enoch and Enos and William and the girls to the proper papa.Mrs. Brown had purely floundered to place the names she had encountered in the period in question.She had too many "John Flys" and they were ALL tangled up.She died with the matter unresolved.I obtained a copy of her hypothesis from the late James Lawrence Fly, sr. and BEGAN to work with her hypothesis for starters.
It will be a GREAT mistake if the present family ignores the forty odd years of work that I have done, with the GREAT help and cooperation of Rev. Norman Flythe for the raw records to be interpreted.
Where Mrs. Brown suggested that John Fly, son of Jeremiah, b. 1679, was born in 1715 (There is NO DOCUMENT that I know of to pinpoint this date of birth), I posit that it makes more sense to think that John Fly was born ca. 1705/6 BECAUSE his father Jeremiah married the widow of Henry Bulls prior to 1704/6. There is a court record from the 1704 - 1706 period that indicates that Jeremiah is married to Mary (unk.)(Bulls) Fly at the time of the record.It is NOT unreasonable to think that son John was born ca. 1705/6 or even a year or two later, but 1815 is stretching it to close the gap of years to John, b. ca. 1744 (which is what Mrs. Brown thought she needed to do to make it work). (An aside:I own a yellow brick from the foundation of John Fly, sen'r.'s house).
It was the custom of wealthy families of the period to send the sons back to England for an education, and John, son of Jeremiah, b. 1679 probably falls out of our records for exactly that reason. He returned to this land with wife Dorothy and his three sons before daughter Christina's birth and christening in 1737.The christening record was found in the records of St. Gabriel's Episcopal Church which had the custody of the records of the Molatton Swedish Lutheran Church of Douglassville, Philadelphia Co., PA (now - 2000 - Berks Co., PA.)
John, b. ca. 1705/6 left his son John Fly, b. ca. 1730 in Pennsylvania and migrated in the general, well-documented migration of that era, to Virginia with sons William and Jeremiah. National Geographic Magazine told about this migration at this period. William, b. ca. 1726/7 is our ancestor under John, b. ca. 1705/6; and HE is the father of the next group of names we have, - John Fly, sen'r., b. ca. 1744, Elisha, b. ca. 1746, Jeremiah, b. ca. 1748, Jesse, sr. b. ca. 1750 and William, jr. b. ca. 1753 (of the 1790 census and revolutionary payment)(I think THIS William is Norman's ancestor; but he is NOT persuaded.)(He likes Elisha, sr. for what REASOn, I do not know)
This is part of my reasoning to insert William, sr. into the generations.It works along with the in-family stories that I have tried to reconcile with the known facts I have been able to find.
So with this having been set out for your understanding, I will re-do and supplement the list you printed.
"From Fly Family History written in 1980 by Clarence Michaels"as modified by the views of James Whitney Fly in 2000 after 42 years of hard work on the acquiring of facts and family stories.
John Fly --1705/6d. ca. 1818 (112 yrs - family story)
William Fly -- 1826/7d. bef. 1795
Elisha Fly, sr. -- 1746d. before 1795
Elisha Fly, jr.-- b. ca. 1767-- d. 1840
John Richard Fly-- b. 1811-- d. 1879
William Nicholas Fly-- b. 1839- d. 1811
Emma (Fly) Michaels)--b. 1883 --d. 1964
Clarence William Michaels-- b. 1908d. ca. 1999
Elisha Fly, sr.b. ca. 1746-- d. bef. 1795
Jeremiah Fly, b. ca. 1773 -- d. 1846
Elisha Fly, b. 1811, -- d. 1877
James Kennedy Fly, b. 1838--d. 1905
William Anderson Fly, b. 1868,d.1895
Luther William Fly,b. 1890-- d. 1967
Fenton Gurley Fly, b. 1934,d. Living 2000
Christopher Alan Fly, b. 1966,L - 2000
John Fly, sen'r. b. ca. 1744, d. 1804 (He signed his name thus (with "sen'r." for "senior")
Enoch Fly, b. 1776,-- d. 1864-- Married Alsea Boon (Boone), d.Cole Co., MO. 1864?
John Boon Fly, b. 1800,d.1885
William Fly.b. 1830,d. 1887
James Marion Fly, b. 1863-- d. 1923
Marian Frances (Fly) Sullivan, b. 1889d. ca.1989 - Mrs. C. Edward Sullivan
Enoch Fly, b. 1776,d. 1864 Cole Co., MO.?
Boon Fly, b. 1810,d.1864 (Bible in possession of James Whitney Fly, Montgomery, AL 36111
Camillus Sidney "Buck" Fly, b. 1849,d. 1901
John Fly, b. ca 1705/6,d.ca. 1818 (112 yrs.).Was paid 5 pounds from Revol. Accounts.
William Fly, b. ca. 1726/7,d. ca. 1794
John Fly, sen'r., b. ca. 1744,d.1804
John Dixon Fly, b. ca. 1765, d. late 1813 (Dec.?) (Was pd. 9 pounds from Rev. Accts.)
Micajah Fly, Rev. b. 1796, Northampton Co., NC.--d. 1864
James Calvin Fly, b. 1843,-- d. 1923
Luther Davison Fly, b. 1879,d.1955
Theo Johnson (Fly) Johnson, b. 1908,d. ?
John Fly,b. 1704/5(see above)
William Fly, b. ca. 1726/7 (see above)
John Fly, sen'r. b. ca. 1744 ,(see above)
Micajah Fly, B. 1796,(see above)
William Abijah Fly,b. 1836,d. 1909
Thomas Hale Fly, b. 1861,d. 1932
Martha "Mattie" Elizabeth (Fly) Holt (Mrs. Lonnie Holt), b. 1896,d.1988
Robert Lonnie Holt, b. ?,d. ?
John Fly, b. ca. 1705/6 (see above)
William Fly, b. ca. 1726/27, (see above)
John Fly, sen'r. b. ca. 1744, (see above)
John Dixon Fly, b. ca. 1765(see above)
Elisha Fly, b. 1795,d. 1870
Samuel Cutchin Fly, b. 1827,d.1898
James William Fly, b. 1854,d. 1917 (septicemia - infected "corn" on foot)
James Enloe Fly, b. 1894,d.1967
James Whitney Fly, b. 1921,d.Living 2000
James Alan Fly,b. 1946, d.L- 2000
Michele Elizabeth (Fly) Gay, b. 1974,d.L-2000
John Fly, b. ca. 1705/6(see above)
William Fly, b. ca. 1726/7(see above)
John Fly, sen'r., b. ca. 1744, d. 1804
John Dixon Fly,(see above)
Elisha Fly, b. 1795,d. 1870
Samuel Cutchin Fly, b. 1827,d.1898
James William Fly, b. 1854, d.1917
Felix Eubank Fly, sr. b. 1897,d.1942
Felix Eubank Fly, jr. b. 1921,d.Living- 20000
Felix Andrew Fly, Dr. b. 1949,d.1991
So here you have my revision of the material you copied from the Fly-family book by Clarence Michaels.It is in NO way intended to detract from the GREAT job Clarence did for the family.I enjoyed knowing him and his dear wife Bertha.
Darlene, keep up the good work.I appreciate what you are doing.
James Whitney Fly
Cousin Jim - b. 11/15/1921 - Nashville, TN. @ Barr's Infirmary.