we have corresponded before about this William Forde and I sent you then what I had on him. It seems likely that he was part of our family, but I haven't been able to place him. In case you have lost what I sent you then, here it is again:
A music web site by Brian McNamara / Drumlin Records (e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org) refers to 'the great collector and Cork classical musician William Forde (1795-1850)'
From "A Dictionary of Irish Artists" by Walter GeorgeStrickland,originally published 1913, reprinted by the Irish UniversityPress,1969 in the information on Samuel Forde, the artist:
"Following the desertion of the family by their father Samuel, Williamendeavoured to support his family by his talents as a musician, and foundmeans to give his brother Samuel some education." As Samuelis known to havebeen born in 1805, William's birth must have been in or before 1804; Brain McNamara gives 1795 as his date of birth, and Linde Lunney (see below) gives 1796.
This information received from Linde Lunney [mailto:email@example.com] in an e-mail received Monday, November 15, 1999. She wrote: Not too much on family background unfortunately. I looked them up in the LDS internet listings but there are just too many William and Samuel Fordes in Cork to be able to pick out the right lines.
"Forde, William (1796-1850), musician and musical scholar, was born in Cork, elder son of Samuel Forde, a tradesman, who, when his business failed, went off to America, abandoning his family. William, still very young, supported the others from his earnings as a musician, and managed to educate his younger brother Samuel Forde, qv. William Forde was best known for his musical publications; in the Encyclopaedia of Melody, he published 3050 tunes from different countries, 350 national melodies of the British Isles(1850) in three volumes, arranged for pianoforte; he also prepared piano and voice primers. He visited London in May 1845; in that year he announced his intention of publishing Irish folk music in a comprehensive collection for subscribers. In 1846 and 1847 he toured Munster and Connaught in search of folktunes; in 1848 he collected in Cavan. He appears to have been impressed by the musical traditions of Leitrim, where he collected at least 150 tunes from a piper named Hugh O'Beirne. Forde's planned publication never materialized, but his carefully arranged material, including over 1900 tunes, is preserved in the library of the Royal Irish Academy. It is regarded as one of the most important resources for Irish folkmusic scholars, and has a still wider relevance in its novel features of arrangement and analysis;Forde attempted to classify the tunes according to their rhythm, the mode and the length of musical phrases, and he also was one of the first to recognize the importance of publishing all the available versions of a tune. Forde's manuscripts contain compositions by Turlough O'Carolan, qv; some of his material was published by Patrick Weston Joyce, qv. Forde was married* and had children, but there is no further information on his life. He seems to have died, perhaps in London, in late 1849 or early 1850. J.D. Brown and S.S. Stratton, British musical biography (1897), reprinted in B.B.I.;
u ? was especiallyin which they were written, theirpreserve some compositions of lough O'Carolan, qv; some of Forde's James Willes, 'Memoir of Samuel Forde, a Cork artist', The Dublin University Magazine, xxv (Mar. 1845), 338;Donal O' Sullivan, Carolan The life and music of an Irish harper, 1 (1958), 130-1; Fintan Vallely, The companion to Irish tradition "
(* It is possible that this entry from Ballymoney Parish records found at http://www.paulturner.ca/Ireland/Cork/Ballymoney%20Parish/BP-text-2.htmhttp://www.paulturner.ca/Ireland/Cork/Ballymoney%20Parish/BP-text-2.htm
(Ballymoney Parish Records, Protestant, 1805-1873, Page 4/9 1842- ...
Ballymoney Parish Records 1805-1873. Page 4 (1842-1848) ... )
relates to this William's marriage:
1819Jun24Married by licenceWilliam FordtoJane Pattison)
Another website on 'Ireland's Music Collectors' by Comhaltas Ceoltóirí Eireann has this to say about him:
William Forde C. 1759 - 1850
William Forde made his headquarters in Cork. He gave lectures on classical composers and in Irish music too. He collected many tunes from musicians around Munster He also toured Sligo, Leitrim, Galway, Roscommon and Mayo bringing back very many beautiful melodies. He noted down hundreds of unpublished airs from a fiddler in Ballinamore. He appealed for subscribers so that he could publish his General Collection of Music of lreland, Ancient and Modern. He failed to get 250 subscribers to pay one guinea each so the collection was never published in his lifetime.
In the County and City of Cork Post Office General Directory for 1842-43 a William Forde, Professor of Music and James Forde, Professor of Drawing are shown as living at 129 Old George's Street with John Forde, Cork cutter, living nearby at 99 Old George's Street . It is possible that James and possibly John were William's brothers; I have details for a James Forde, professor of drawing, born 1824. Given the age difference, (28 years) it is more likely that, as they were a generation apart, William was James' father or uncle.
Notes and Queries Vol. 10 (247) Jul 22 1854 (and many other issues)Unnumbered Page has an advertisement which includes amongst many names"William Forde, Musician"
I have yet to establish what, if any, relationship there is between this William Forde and the rest of the County Cork Forde family.
I see that some of the information came from you to me!
Hope this helps