Hi Gary, Thankyou for your reply.It almost brought me to tears reading it. I happened to be very close to Bette and Rosemary. Bette passed away on the 27th of January 1999. The day after her favourite day which was australia day. Rosemary is in a home for disabled people and is deteriorating quite fast i ocassionally drop in to see her however is no longer remembers who i am. Bill - my stepfather never goes to see her he cant bring himself to do it. He also has a half brother john lelliot. now i know where the surname came from. I cant get bill to talk about his past or family so it is making it rather hard. Bill now owns the property at beetaloo and we are there quite often. He also has two daughters Tieca Fradd who is 13 and Danielle Fradd (known as Dani) who is 11 and who we belive is slightly autistic. Do you happen to have any other information that may help me? John his half brother has kind of helped me but is very vague on details has he has had a slight stroke and getting quite old.