Re: RUTH AVENAL GERNER
No I don't --who were they?
I only know that Ruth's family were of German descent--she had grown up in South Australia which had a large German community...
She had cousins in the Carruthers family also. John todman Carruthers died in his teens having been accidentally shot while hunting..Scots College (my old school in SYdney) still has a large wall clock bearing his name as a memorial that the family provided...)
Hope this of benefit..would be interested to hear if this fits with your family at all,