Re: Stafford Graham abt. 1757 N.C.-Sept 1833 Pickens, S.C.
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Stafford Graham abt. 1757 N.C.-Sept 1833 Pickens, S.C.
Janet Wallace 2/16/13
STAFFORDGRAHAM x 2 or more
Stafford son of Edward & Patience
Probably their youngest son.Evidently lived in his father’s house in 1749, when his father’s will left him the “manor plantation”;Stafford died by Oct 1752, almost certainly without children, and evidently unmarried.
There was at least one other Stafford, however, discussed below.
Presuming that all of the Staffords in the 1800, 1820 and 1830 censuses below are the same man, which is somewhat supported by the pension applications of Stafford and his wife,he was 26-44 in 1800(= born 1755-1774) and 45+ in 1820(= born by 1775).
His age in 1830 is in his 60s, meaning that he was in his 30s in 1800, and thus born between 1760 and 1770.(Note that in his pension application he claimed he was born in 1757.)
It seems likely that he was a son of one of the sons of Edward & Patience,excluding their sons Robert and Stafford himself, since it seems fairly sure that neither of those two had children, and also excluding James, since he named no son Stafford in his 1781 will.
That leaves these sons of Edward as the probable / possible father of the Stafford in the censuses below:
Charles, Edward, George, John and William.
It is presumed that one or more of those brothers might have named a son Stafford in honor of their deceased brother.
As a practical matter, probably Charles, John and William might also be excluded, unless they married a second time, since it seems impossiblethat a wife of their own approximate age would be bearing a child in the 1760s.
That leaves Edward and George as possible, and I think the most probable, father of Stafford if indeed he was a grandson of Edward and Patience.
That is, of course, if the Stafford in the censuses below was a grandson of Edward & Patience, rather than a greatgrandson.
The fact that Stafford was in Fairfield Co SC in 1800, in the second house from a--younger--Edward Graham, and near Isaac and William Graham / Grimes, is interesting, as Isaac for sure, and I think William his proposed brother, were from Prince William Co VA, the parent county of Fairfax, where Edward Graham Sr died, leaving lands and sons in Fairfax and Prince William Co.
Stafford, Isaac and William of Fairfield SC were all 45 or older in 1800, but Isaac (b1749) was several years older than Stafford.
It seems fairly likely that the Edward who was near Stafford in 1800 Fairfield Co might have been Stafford’s son.If so, that might suggest that Stafford’s father was Edward Jr son of the Edward Sr who died in about 1750.
Since Stafford was in his 30s in 1800, as shown above, he was in his 20s in 1790.
In 1790 Pendleton Co SC(NW of Fairfield Co),there were two Edwards;one of them is 1-1-5 (next to Peter Graham), and the other Edward is 2-3-4.
Stafford, in his 20s in 1790, almost certainly was not the head of the first of those two households,nor in that household as the under-16 son,but could be in the second Edward household as the second over-16 male.
If so, that would add weight to the theory that Stafford might have been a son of Edward Sr’s son Edward Jr.
It is known that some of the descendants of Edward Sr who died in about 1750 and his wife Patience ---namely sons of William of Caswell NC, who was maybe a son of James who WAS a son of old Edward who died in 1750---were in Pendleton Co SC.In addition to the two Edwards mentioned, 1790 Pendleton also had a James (1-u-u) and Peter (1-2-4).
William3 (maybe James2, Edward1) had a son Peter, who may be the Peter in 1790 Pendleton.James (1-u-u) of 1790 Pendleton is more difficult to speculate on.James2 had died before 1790, so it is not him, but it may be his own son James3.
It is speculated that the path of at least some of the descendants of Edward Sr & Patience of Fairfax VA went through Orange NC, then Caswell NC, then to Pendleton SC, from which some of them went to Fairfield SC and some to Green KY, and some to both Fairfield and Green.
As for Stafford on these censuses, it seems very possible that he was a son of Edward2 (Edward1) and his wife Janne (to whom he had been married since at least Nov 1750),but I think it also very likely that the Stafford discussed here was a son of one of the sons of Edward and Patience mentioned above.
1800 SC Fairfield Co
222 Isaac Grimes2020100201
222 William Grimes3120101001(next to Isaac above)
226 Edward Grimes0011000211
226 Stafford Grimes0000122101(2nd from Edward above)
230 John Graham1000131001
232Benj’n Grimes1010000110(next to Clement & Joseph Arledge)
235 Joshua Grimes1010020100
1810 -- Stafford not yet found
1820 NC Guilford Co
Stafford Graham03001100101
William Grimes21001012010
William Grimes21000112010
William? Grimes? 21001012100
1830 SC Pickens Co(Pickens Co was formed in the 1820s from Pendleton Co)
252 Eunice Graham000110010001
254 William Graham222101000001
319 Stafford Graham0000100010000100001
NOTES REGARDING THE PENSION APPLICATION BELOW
-1-In this application Stafford states that he was born in Richmond Co NC in 1757.This is a problem because Richmond Co was not formed until 1779, from Anson Co.(See diagram below.)
One supposes that he had forgotten about the Richmond formation date, and that he actually was born in Anson Co,OR, alternatively, that he moved to Richmond Co sometime after 1779, in which case it might be difficult to determine where he lived before Richmond.
-2-There is also, consequently,a question as to whether 1757 was his correct year of birth.But it probably is the year we must believe, and seems to be approximately the correct year.
His wife Elizabeth stated that she was four years older than Stafford, and declared her age in 1848 to be 94, the two statements thus calculate to a birth in about1753 or 1754, which does agree with Stafford’s declaration that he was born in 1757.
-3-Moreover, Stafford stated that he entered the military (year not stated),presumably for the first of his at least 3 tours,from, as he stated, “Richmond Co NC, then called Cumberland Co”.
That seems to infer that Richmond was formed from part of Cumberland Co.
This is quite certainly incorrect.All of the references I can find agree thatCumberland Co was formed in 1754 from Bladen Co, and that the only two counties formed from Cumberland, at least through 1784, were Wake Co in 1771 and Moore Co in 1784.Richmond Co was never a part of Cumberland Co.
By comparing the 1775 and 1780 county maps at
http://www.ncgenweb.us/catawba/countyfm.htmhttp://www.ncgenweb.us/catawba/countyfm.htm
it can be seen that Anson was divided up so that there were three counties:Anson, Richmond and Montgomery.
Cumberland Co in 1780 was northeast of Richmond Co.
The conclusion is that either Stafford was mistaken, or possibly that some very small part of Cumberland Co was at some time transferred to Richmond Co, and if so perhaps Stafford lived in that small piece of land, a transfer that was so small it was not mentioned in books concerning formation of NC counties..
-4- As for Stafford’s wife Elizabeth, researchers I respect report that her name was Elizabeth BERRYMAN.
Their known children, so far, are:
William Alexander
Henry
Cynthia
Elizabeth
ANSON CO AND ITS DESCENDANT COUNTIES
ANSON 1750, FROM BLADEN
1762 Mecklenburg
---1769 Tryon
------1779 Lincoln
------1779 Rutherford
---------1791 Buncombe
---1792 Cabarrus
1779 Montgomery
1779 Richmond
STAFFORD’S PENSION APPLICATION
1832 Oct 6--PICKENS CO SC
Southern Campaign American Revolution Pension Statements
Pension application of Stafford Graham W8872 Elizabeth fn47NC
Transcribed by Will Graves
The State of South Carolina, Pickens District
On this 6thday of October 1832 Personally appeared in open Court before the Judge of Pickens District Stafford Graham resident of the State and District aforesaid aged 75 years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed 7th June 1832.
That he entered the service in the revolutionary war in the militia under Captain Hoy, Lieutenant Davison [sic, Davidson?] rendezvoused at Rockingham, Richmond County North Carolina as a substitute for six months service, marched from thence to Cross Creek from thence to Elizabeth Town from thence to Wilmington where I remained some time was marched back to Elizabeth Town thence back to Cross Creek where I remained the remainder of my six months Tour we were Joined at Cross Creek by General Lee's Rifle Company was discharged and returned home.My next Tour I was drafted and put under Captain Hathhorn [sic, Hawthorne?], Lieutenant John Turnage rendezvoused at Rockingham was marched to Coe's Bridge on Drowning Creek in pursuit of some British who had left the place before we arrived we had several skirmishes with the Tories marched back to Rockingham were discharged.
My next Tour was drafted under Captain William Speed, Lieutenant Speed Rendezvous at Rockingham marched up past Salisbury to Quaker Meadows in pursuit of Indians from thence we went in pursuit of a man called Fletcher, but without effect we returned to Rockingham scouting about some time until our time was out and was discharged this Tour was for three months my next tour I was drafted under Captain Hathhorn for three months as a horseman was employed in scouring the country making in all about 15 months service.
I know of no documentary or Personal Evidence which I can procure to Testify my Services.
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a Pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency of any State.
Questions
1stWhen and in what year were you born?
I was born in Richmond County North Carolina 1757
2ndWhere were you living when called into service: where have you lived since the Revolutionary War and where do you now live?
I lived in Richmond County then called Cumberland I removed some time since to South Carolina and now live in Pickens District in said State.
4thHow were you called into service; were you drafted; did you volunteer or were you a substitute, and if in substitute, for whom?
This is answered in the body of my application.
5thState the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops when you served, such Continental and militia regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service.
This is answered also in the Body of my application as far as my recollection serves me except we were a while with General Arrington.
6thDid you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?
I received a written discharge at Crossed Creek from Captain Hoy the second I received at Rockingham from Captain Hathhorn, a third discharge I received at Rockingham from Captain Speed, which are all Lost/
Sworn to and Subscribed in open Court.
S/ William L. Keith, Clerk S/ Stafford Graham, G his mark
[Stephen Ellis, a clergyman, and David McKinney gave the standard supporting affidavit.]
[On April 1, 1848, and Pickens District South Carolina, Elizabeth Graham, aged 94, a resident of that County filed for a widows pension stating “...that when he entered the service they lived in this State on Broad River, she states in Fairfield District, thinks he served under one Medlock in some office, probably Captain.
He entered the service very soon after their marriage and was gone from her a long time, she cannot say how long, thinks he was in several skirmishes and perhaps Battles but she cannot now state the particulars as to his service; he however drew a Pension and his certificate dated 14th February 1833 is now in her possession....”
She also states that she married Stafford Graham in November 1778 in Richmond County North Carolina in a ceremony performed by John Bounds Esq.;that her husband was four years younger than herself, that she had“...10 children, raised eight, they are scattered, the oldest child is dead, the second is living in Alabama and is in her 67th year, the Daughter with whom she now lives is her seventh child, and is 56 years old, that her husband the aforesaid Stafford Graham died the 20th day of September 1833 and that she has remained a widow ever since....”]
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