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Quebec pioneer JB Halle/Halay

By Janet Manseau July 16, 2011 at 09:35:01

Descendants of Jean-Baptiste Halle/Halay
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide

Generation No. 1

       1.Jean-Baptiste1 Halle/Halay was born about 1607 in St. Julien, LeCoudray, France, and died 19 Mar 1672 in Lauzon, Levis, QC.He married Mathurine Valet about 1641 in St. Julien du Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France.She was born about 1607 in St. Julien, LeCoudray, France, and died 14 Mar 1686 in Lauzon, Levis, QC.

Notes for Jean-Baptiste Halle/Halay:
The first appearance of the Hallé family in Nouvelle (New) France is in Québec, August 10, 1659, whereas the father and the girl receive hands of Mgr. of Laval, the sacrament of Confirmation.
As a pioneer, he arrived in Canada with his wife Mathurine and three children, before their fourth child that was born in Sep. 1659 in Canada.He is listed as being 60 in the 1667 Lauzon census.Jean Baptiste was found dead in the woods and on 19 Mar 1672 the Missionary Morel buried him in the cemetery at the Coast of Lauzon.The first appearance of the Hallé family in News-France is in Quebec, August 10, 1659, whereas the father and the girl receive hands of Mgr. of Laval, the sacrament of Confirmation.
As a pioneer, he arrived in Canada with his wife Mathurine and three children, before their fourth child that was born in Sep. 1659 in Canada.He is listed as being 60 in the 1667 Lauzon census.Jean Baptiste was found dead in the woods and on 19 Mar 1672 the Missionary Morel buried him in the cemetery at the Coast of Lauzon.

Notes for Mathurine Valet:
This pioneer arrived in Canada with her husband and children in 1658.She is listed as being 58 in the 1667 Lauzon census and 74 in the 1681 census.She was buried in 1686 at Lauzon near her husband.
       
Children of Jean-Baptiste Halle/Halay and Mathurine Valet are:
+       2       i.       Marie2 Halle, born about 1641 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France; died Bef. 01 Jun 1676 in Unknown, QC.
+       3       ii.       Barbe Halle, born about 1646 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France; died 18 Jun 1696 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.
+       4       iii.       Elisabeth Halle/Halay, born about 1648 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France; died 09 Aug 1726 in Québec City, QC.
+       5       iv.       Jean-Baptiste Halle, born 10 Sep 1659 in Québec City, QC; died 26 Feb 1726 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.


Generation No. 2

       2.Marie2 Halle (Jean-Baptiste1 Halle/Halay) was born about 1641 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France, and died Bef. 01 Jun 1676 in Unknown, QC.She married Joachim Girard 27 Sep 1660 in Québec City, QC (ct 12, Audouart), son of Michel Girard and Francoise Anceau.He was born about 1642 in St. Cry, LaVaudreuil, Rouen, Normandie, France, and died Bet. 06 Feb 1708 - 30 May 1712 in Québec City, QC.

Notes for Marie Halle:
This pioneer was about 18 when she arrived with her parents.She was confirmed as being in Québec on Aug. 10, 1659.Marie Hallé, died some time before the inventory of her goods drawn up on April 20, 1676.
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SOURCE: One Hundred French Canadian Families, Phillip Moore, 1994 p197
Every year the Jesuit fathers sent a report to Paris...their report of 1665 tells...the very virtuous Mary Halay, wife of Joachim Girard, had three children, the oldest being four years old. It worried Marie leaving her children at home so she could attend devotions. 8 July 1665 she left the children at home and went to church. When she returned she was surprised to see that they were in their beds, dressed and fed
just as she would have done. She asked the four year old girl Marie who was bright for her age , who had done this. The child said it was a lady all dressed in white. The little one knew all the neighbour women and was sure it was not any of them...Many people thought the stranger was the Virgin Mary. An ecclesiastic confirmed the story.

Notes for Joachim Girard:
He was born between 1637 and 1644 as the son of Michel Girard and Francoise Ancéaume, Joachim Girard, originating from the parish of Saint-Cyr in Vaudreuil, located along the river the Eure, which is in the Seine, district Andelys, Rouen, in Normandie.
In January 1660, Joachim Girard married Marie Halay, or Hallé, 18 years old, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Halay and Mathurine Valet, originating in Coudray, Saint-Julien parish, near to the town of Chartres.
Joachim Girard was 24 years with the census of 1666 at the coast St-Jean and 30 years at the time of the census of 1667. Joachim and its family live at the coast of Sainte Geneviève, where they have two animals with horns and ten arpents of cultivated land.
He sold his land on April 22, 1674 to Jean Sédillot and moved to the village of Saint-Bernard in Charlesbourg, where he has a concession of four arpents.
Joachim Girard then on 1 June 1676 married Jeanne Chalut, born in 1657, daughter of Pierre Chalut and Marie Bonin, widow of Norman Nicolas Hévé and mother of a child. Jeanne gives him nine more children.
In the census of 1681, Joachim Girard is 37 years old and remains with St-Bernard, in Charlesbourg where it has a rifle, four horned animals and ten arpents of ground being cultivated.
Joachim Girard died between February 6, 1708 when he was present at the marriage of the one of his sons andMay 30, 1712 when his widow Jeanne Chalutmarried Guillaume Valade.This was her third wedding.
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More notes for Joachim Girard:
SOURCE: One Hundred French Canadian Families, Phillip Moore, 1994 p197
Joachim Girard may have accompanied his aunt (Marie Girard) and her husband (Jean Jobin) to Canada in 1651. He obtained a grant of land with two arpents (acres) frontage and fifteen arpents deep, 20 Jan 1660. The next fall he signed his marriage contract with an excellent script. Suggesting that he was literate. He agreed to marry Marie Halay. His uncle Jean Jobin was was generous toward him, in consideration of all the years he had worked for him. He gave a cow, two cauldrons (iron pots), a mattress, two place settings, a pot, two platters , six dishes and promised to pay the passage of Joachim's man (Indentured servant) and to feed his for one year of his two year contract.
Joachim worked his uncles farm prior to his marriage and continued to do so after marriage with a contract. He paid his uncle half the profit from the grain, fed a cow, six chickens and two pigs for the uncle. He also agreed to deliver four cords of wood to the Uncle in the Upper City of Québec...

       
Children of Marie Halle and Joachim Girard are:
       6       i.       Marie3 Girard, born 26 Aug 1661 in Québec City, QC; died 23 Jan 1696 in Charlesbourg, QC.She married Pierre Hotte/Hot, (Pierre & Colette Leclerc) 20 Apr 1676 in Québec City, QC; born about 1642 in Normandie, France; died Bef. 16 Jan 1696 in Charlesbourg, QC.
       7       ii.       Jacques Girard, born 28 Sep 1662 in Québec City, QC; died 30 Aug 1738 in Beaumont, QC.He married Mathurine Poire, (Laurent & Genevieve Leclerc) 24 Apr 1687 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC; born 18 Dec 1672 in Québec City, QC; died 05 Jul 1746 in Beaumont, QC.
       8       iii.       Antoine Girard, born 24 Feb 1664 in Québec City, QC; died 17 Jul 1741 in Québec City, QC.He married Marie-Agnes Trottier 24 Nov 1687 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC; born about 1672 in Unknown, QC; died 15 Jan 1741 in Québec City, QC.
       9       iv.       Marie-Barbe Girard, born 26 Dec 1665 in Québec City, QC; died 04 Nov 1666 in Québec City, QC.
       10       v.       Barbe Girard, born about 1667 in Unknown, QC; died 26 Jan 1737 in St. Thomas, Montmagny, QC.She married Joseph Fournier 25 Jun 1684 in Unknown (presumed Lauzon) , QC (ct Gilles Rageot); born 12 Jul 1661 in Québec City, QC; died 09 Dec 1741 in St. Thomas, Montmagny, QC.

Notes for Barbe Girard:
She was 15 days old when the 1666 census were taken during Feb. and Mar. at St. Jean, St. Francois and St. Michel.
Barbe was married at 18 and had 17 children in less than 24 years before she turned 42 years old..This included two sets of twins.Seven of these children died before they turned a month old.

       11       vi.       Jacques-Etienne Girard, born 07 Dec 1669 in Québec City, QC; died 11 Dec 1669 in Québec City, QC.
       12       vii.       Anne Girard, born about 1671 in Unknown, QC; died Mar 1725 in Unknown, QC.She married Ignace Lemay-dit-Poudrier 24 Nov 1687 in Charlesbourg, QC; born about 1665 in Unknown, QC; died Bet. 19 Aug 1725 - 13 Mar 1728 in Lotbinière, QC.


       3.Barbe2 Halle (Jean-Baptiste1 Halle/Halay) was born about 1646 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France, and died 18 Jun 1696 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.She married Jean Carrier/Carriere 04 Nov 1670 in Québec City, QC, son of Jean Carrier/Carriere and Jeanne Dodier.He was born about 1636 in Saintonge, France, and died Aft. 20 Apr 1711 in Lauzon, Lévis, QC.
       
Children of Barbe Halle and Jean Carrier/Carriere are:
       13       i.       Ignace3 Carrier/Carriere, born 05 Sep 1671 in Lauzon, Lévis, QC; died 21 Aug 1765 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC.He married Perrine-Genevieve Grenet 16 Jun 1693 in Lauzon, QC; born 13 Sep 1672 in Québec City, QC; died 17 Sep 1709 in Lauzon, Lévis, QC.
       14       ii.       Marie-Anne Carrier/Carriere, born 16 Jan 1674 in Québec City, QC.She married Pierre Turgeon 16 Nov 1695 in Pointe de Levy, Lauzon, QC; born about 1669 in Unknown, QC.
       15       iii.       Charles Carrier/Carriere, born 23 Dec 1678 in Québec City, QC.He married Marie Gezeron/Gesseron-dit-Brulot 15 Jun 1699 in Lauzon, Lévis, QC; born 01 Jun 1682 in Lauzon, Lévis, QC.
       16       iv.       Jean Carrier/Carriere, born 10 Dec 1682 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC; died Dec 1749 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC.He married Jeanne Samson 15 Apr 1705 in Chambelon, Lauzon, Lévy, QC; born 09 Oct 1681 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC; died 23 Oct 1758 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC.


       4.Elisabeth2 Halle/Halay (Jean-Baptiste1) was born about 1648 in Coudray, Chartres, Orleanais, France, and died 09 Aug 1726 in Québec City, QC.She married Guillaume Albert-dit-Lafontaine 25 Aug 1664 in Québec City, QC, son of Francois Albert and Thomasse Gabaret.He was born 22 Apr 1635 in St. Pierre, Île d'Orleon, Saintonge, France, and died 15 Dec 1708 in Lauzon, QC.
       
Child of Elisabeth Halle/Halay and Guillaume Albert-dit-Lafontaine is:
       17       i.       Elisabeth3 Albert-dit-Lafontaine, born 24 Jan 1676 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC; died 19 Feb 1736 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC.She married Michel Guay-dit-Guillet 23 Nov 1694 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC; born 11 Apr 1677 in Lauzon, QC; died 08 Dec 1752 in Lauzon, Lévy, QC.


       5.Jean-Baptiste2 Halle (Jean-Baptiste1 Halle/Halay) was born 10 Sep 1659 in Québec City, QC, and died 26 Feb 1726 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.He married Marie-Marguerite Maranda/Marandeau 16 Nov 1682 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, daughter of Jean Maranda/Marandeau and Jeanne Cousin.She was born 14 Jul 1664 in La Flotte, Île de Ré, La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died Bet. 01 Apr 1694 - 14 Jul 1695 in Metru, Lauzon, QC.
       
Child of Jean-Baptiste Halle and Marie-Marguerite Maranda/Marandeau is:
       18       i.       Jean-Baptiste3 Halle, born 20 Nov 1683 in Lauzon,QC; died 04 Apr 1744 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.He married (1) Marie-Anne Rancin, (Charles & M.Franc. Confland) 26 Nov 1709 in Québec City, QC; born 10 Apr 1689 in Québec City, QC; died 01 May 1717 in Québec City, QC.He married (2) Cecile-Marie-Jeanne St.Yves 16 Feb 1733 in Montréal, QC; born 07 Oct 1699 in Montréal, QC; died 09 Mar 1744 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.

Notes for Jean-Baptiste Halle:
He has 4 wives.

Notes for Cecile-Marie-Jeanne St.Yves:
She had an Enfant Naturel (child born out of wedlock) Jean-Francois born 19 Aug 1722 at Pointe aux Trembles that died on 29 Aug 1722 at Riviere des Prairies.His father was Francois Desnoyers.

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Hi, I have decided to post all my Québec pioneer ancestor at the different GenForums because a lot of individuals doing genealogy research don’t realize that their ancestors can be found as early as the 1600s.

My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name.For a very small fee PRDH has all the Canadian records from 1600-1799 and some death dates up to 1850.Their records are about 18% accurate.They can be found at:
http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htmhttp://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm

As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.

For the 1800-1900s I paid to prove my direct lines.My data for their extended family come from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.

Use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science.As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren.I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet


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