i apologize for my typos in my recent posts.i have a somewhat ancient degree in journalism from the university of ga but ironically i never learned to type!the corrections, however, that i want to make per my posts are the following:
my brother, david's, and our father's name is rev donald dee harris, sr-----not rev donald deed harris, sr.
also, it is the 1749, not the 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list, where you will find both our william harris, sr/ frances goode; his father, our william harris/ judith hudson; our mackerness goode, sr; our peter hudson, sr and peter hudson, jr and also john wilborn/ judithall in corneliuscargill's district and which, again, is the area that became halifax co, va.
it is this same 1749 lunenburg co, va tithe list that you will also find john wilborn/ judith listed adjacent our william harris, sr/ frances goode and below our mackerness goode, sr.
one can learn a lot from these early lunenburg co, va tithe lists but, sorry to say, however, not all of them have been published and there are lists missing for some of the years and for some of the districts.
it is this 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list that i do want to talk about here and other info.
as i now recall,i was not able to find our william harris, sr/ frances goode on this 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list but he was definitely there and all i can figure is that at this point he was either living in the household of his father, our william harris/ judith hudson or his father-in-law, our mackerness goode, sr.
the reason i know for sure he was there is that, again, from 1745-1749, our william harris, sr/ frances goode was the overseer for william marable's plantation, finneywood, and in 1750, our william harris, sr/ frances goode had a suit with william marable per his having been william marable's overseer.
here are the depositions given by both our mackerness goode, sr and his son, samuel goode re this suit and you will note here that both abraham martin and cornelius cargill signed these depositions in some official capacity.
this is also important because, per this 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list, both our william harris/ judith hudson and our mackerness goode, sr are listed as being in abraham martin's district.it is abraham martin's district that contains the area that would later become the bluestone creek area of mecklenburg co, va.
Abraham Martin, "from Blew Stone to Little Roanoke."
this was for sure our william harris/ judith hudson in abraham martin's district because he is listed as being one dwelling down from william hunt and per also a lunenburg co, va deed to follow, our william harris/ judith hudson sold land to william hunt in 1755 and records show that he was the same william hunt who continued to live near our william harris/ judith hudson, etc, in this same woodpecker creek area of lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va.
first, though, here are the depositions given re, again, the suit our william harris, sr/ frances goode had in 1750 with william marable by our mackerness goode, sr and his son, our samuel goode, showing, again, that both cornelius cargill and abraham martin signed these depositions in an official capacity.
Chancery Court Marrable vs Harris Depositions:
The Deponent in ye other side further Saith that according to ye Plaintiff's desire in the year 1745/ 1746 he see measured & lofted (?) on ye said Plaintif Plantation Eighteen barrells of Indian Corn or there abouts, that was a crop of the late Overseer Wilkins & this Deponent further saith that ye Defendant soon after mov'd to ye said house with his Wife and four Negroes, further Saith not.
Aug ye first 1750
Abr: Martin, Mackerness +(his mark) Goode
(note that my mackerness goode, sr signed with a mark. i point this out because mackerness goode, jr, son of my mackerness goode, sr, did sign his name and this was my/ our mackerness goode, sr's son, our mackerness goode, jr, who moved from laurens co, sc and who died 1793/ 1795 in edgefield co, sc.)
The Deposition of Samuel Good taken for William Marble in a Suit of Chancery now Depending in Lunenburgh County betwixt the said Marable Complainant and William Harris Defendant
This Deponent being of the Age of Thirty years or there abouts being first sworn Doth say
That he had of the said Harris Ten Barrells of Corn (as he believes) for a horse. That he was to have had the ten Barrells made up Fifteen but that he never received more than two or three Barrells more & one Peck being Informed by Harris his Corn fell Short.
This Deponant being asked the year he received this Corn of Harris sais, he believes it was part of the first Crop Harris made on Marrables Plantation
And being further asked if the Corn he had of Harris was made in the year 1746 or 1747 sais (unreadable or blank)----And this Deponent further …first year Harris worked on the Plantation
Wm Tibs being of lawfull age deposes in the Controversy between Wm Marable Plt & William Harris Defendant
That he knows of about Seventy or Eighty hogs that ye Defendant had which he took much care of in ye year 48. That he knows of some pigs to die, this Deponant further Saith that twelve of the Said hogs was missing & he understood by the said Defendant that they were run away, and that the Defendant hunt for them And he knows of no hogs or pork the Defendant sold of the Stock belonging to the Pltf's Plantation and further Saith not
Aug ye first day 1750
William +(his mark) Tibbs
my/ our william harris, sr/ frances goode sold land in lunenburg co, va in 1755 to this same william tibbs.
lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 209, 1755, william harris of lunenburg co, va to william tibbs of same for 10 pds, 100 acres, part of 1000 acre tract william harris since sold to william reade. witnesses: robert wooding; thomas bedford; william jones. frances, wife of william harris, relinquished her right of dower.
the following lunenburg co, va deed re william reade shows that the land my william harris/ frances goode sold to william reade and william tibbs bordered that of my/ our mackerness goode, sr.
lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 200, 1755, william reade of lunenburg co, va to matthew marable of same for 160 pds, 800 acres on the head branches of the bluestone creek, bounded by matthew marable; a new line and william tibbs; an old line; mackerness goode. no witnesses.
again, per this 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list,both our mackerness goode, sr and our william harris/ judith hudson are in abraham martin's district and our william harris/ judith hudson, who, again, paid for two tithes is listed near william hunt and in 1755, our william harris/ judith hudson sold land to william hunt.
actually, there is no dower renunciation given per this deed re our william harris/ judith hudson to william hunt but a later 1771 mecklenburg co, va deed shows that william hunt and his wife, mary, sold land in the woodpecker creek area to richard lamkin, which bordered on mark moore.
i will repeat, and which is also important and significant and why, again, it is important to study all of these records, is that unless a dower renunciation was given and/or some other way of distinguishing them was made, per these early lunenburg co, va records, that it is almost impossible to distinguish our william harris, sr/ frances goode from his father, our william harris/ judith hudson because, again, they were so involved there with each other and with these same individuals.
again, it is our william harris/ judith hudson, who lived in this same woodpecker creek area that became mecklenburg co, va in 1765 and mark moore was one of the executors of our william harris' 1778 mecklenburg co, va will and the deed, to follow, shows that william hunt/ mary sold to richard lamkin land in this same woodpecker creek area that bordered on mark moore and this is the same lamkin family re thomas wilborn/ hannah lamkin, son of john wilborn/ judith.
lunenburg co, va deed book 4, page 315, 1755, william harris of lunenburg to william hunt of same for 33 pds, 236 acres on both sides of the middle fork of the bluestone creek, bounded by branch called swamp; miller. signed: william harris. witnesses: adam winders; richard palmer; robert wooding.
mecklenburg co, va deed book 3, page 103, 1771, william hunt and mary, his wife, of mecklenburg to richard lamkin of same for 40 pds, 100 acres in mecklenburg bounded by jeremiah lamkin on woodpecker creek; abraham brown; stephen evans; mark moore, the north side of buzzard branch. signed: william hunt. no witnesses.
again, i have cited in these posts how involved both my/ our william harris, sr/ frances goode and his father, our william harris/ judith hudson were with john wilborn judith there in these same lunenburg/ halifax and mecklenburg co, va areas and, again, whereas it was our william harris/ judith hudson, daughter of our peter hudson, sr, and richard hudson, who witnessed john wilborn's 1758 lunenburg co, va will, it was our william harris, sr/ frances goode, who, along with john camp, were the executors of john wilborn/ judith's will and estate from 1758-1762 and our william harris, sr/ frances goode is shown to have been the primary executor.
i have also said in my previous posts that i believe that, like john wilborn, who, again, died there in 1758 in lunenburg co, va that our judith hudson harris, daughter of our peter hudson, sr, also died there in lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va about this same time so that by 1761, our william harris had re-married judith, wife/ widow of john wilborn, and who is definitely indicated to have been a daughter of this richard hudson and i have more to say about this per again this same 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list.
first, though, and also to repeat, john wilborn/ judith's son thomas wilborn married hannah lamkin in 1769 in goochland co, va and per the following mecklenburg co, va deed, thomas wilborn and his wife, hannah, sold land there to sampson lamkin and the following info shows that richard lamkin; sampson lamkin; and hannah lamkin wilborn were the children of this james lamkin/ winnifred of northumberland co, va.
mecklenburg co, va deed book 5, page 303, 1778, thomas wilborn and hannah, his wife, of mecklenburg co, va to sampson lampkin of same for 100 pds, 400 acres in mecklenburg on the southside of the middle bluestone creek and bounded by hunt, ragsdale. signed: thomas wilborn, his mark; hannah wilborn, her mark: witnesses: james lamkin; john chandler; james lamkin, jr; william wilborn.
here is also the info that, again, thomas wilborn, son of john wilborn/ judith, married hannah lambkin/ lamkin in 1769 in goochland co, va and i will repeat that if thomas wilborn could have gone from lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va in 1769 where he married hannah lamkin there in goochland co, va, then, sherwood harris, son of our william harris/ judith hudson and brother of my/ our william harris, sr/ frances goode, could have also left lunenburg/ mecklenburg co, va and have also gone to goochland co, va where he married hannah page there in 1761.
" I came across this marriage in Wulfeck's Marriage of Some VA Residents. She was getting it from Douglas' Register (edited by William MacFarlane Jones)."
"Thomas Welbourn m. 23 Oct. 1769 Hannah Lambkin, both in this parish."
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 2:28:35 PM
Subject: Re: James Harrison of Overton Co. TN connection to Lamkin's
Cheryl I believe you are correct in the connection to this line but ; WHERE DOES PETER LAMKIN COME IN?
This is what is in my data base for Betty Lampkin's parentage.
Betty Lampkin (Elizabeth Brown Lampkin) daughter of James Lamkin 1722-1791 and Winefred unknown cir 1725-cir 1761
I have all the children born St. Stephens Parish, Northumberland Co. Virginia
Jeremiah Lamkin 1743
Richard Lamkin 1745
George Lamkin 1747
Sampson Lamkin 1749 m Ann Doggett
Hannah Lamkin 1751
Betty Lamkin Jan 11, 1754 ( Elizabeth Brown Lampkin) m James Mason Harrison ( my line)
James Lamkin 20 April 1756
again, you can go to the 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list and find the following info per cornelius cargill's district:
peter hudson, jr1 tithe
james hudson1 tithe
william mcgenniss3 tithes
peter hudson, sr3 tithes
john bolling1 tithe
john wilborn1 tithe
again, I think that the fact that john wilborn/ judith are listed down below our peter hudson, sr and our peter hudson, jr and his brother, our james hudson/ agnes burton also indicates to me that john wilborn's wife, judith, was a hudson but more of the info, already cited, indicates to me that judith was probably the daughter of richard hudson/ ann, who was the nephew of our peter hudson, sr.
again, both my/ our mackerness goode, sr and our william harris/ judith hudson are in abraham martin's district per this same 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list:
reps osborne1 tithe
mcness goode5 tithes
phillip goode1 tithe
captain stephen bedford
william hunt4 tithes
richard ward2 tithes
william harris2 tithes
this was captain stephen bedford's son, thomas bedford who married mary ligon coleman, daughter of captain john coleman/ mary ligon, who was the daughter of richard ligon/ mary worsham, son of captain thomas ligon/ mary harris, daughter of our captain thomas harris and sister of our major william harris, who died in 1678 there in henrico co, va.
Henrico County Virginia - Deeds & Wills, 1706-1845 Film #1697555 Family History Library Salt Lake City, Utah
Recorded 1 Nov 1706 Deed #4:
Richard LIGON of Bristol Parish, Henrico County, is indebted to William LIGON of Henrico Parish, Henrico County, and bound for $200 1 Nov 1707. The condition is that there is a parcel of land on north side of James River, between plantation called "Curles" belonging to Col. William Randolph, and plantation of John Woodson where he lives, containing 200 acres, left to Mary Ligon by her father Capt. Thomas Harris, dec'd, . There have lately been several suits concerning right to said land, between above Richard Ligon and Thomas Ligon, son and heir of William Ligon, elder brother of said Richard. On death of said Thomas Ligon, the right of above William Ligon, dec'd, descended to above named William Ligon. William Ligon and Richard Ligon have agreed to divide the land equally between said William Ligon and Matthew Ligon, son of above Richard. the lower half to William and upper to Matthew. Wit: John Pleasants, Joseph Pleasants Recorded 1 Nov 1706.
Deed #5 Richard LIGON of Bristol Parish, Henrico County., for 5 shillings, to William LIGON of Henrico Parish, Henrico County, 100 acres on north side of James River, adjoing the "Curles" plantation, bounded Curles, John Woodson, the land having lately been in tenure of several tenants placed there by Mrs. Mary LIGON, dec'd, to whom said land did belong, the whole property being 200 acres. Dated 1 Nov 1706 Wit: John Pleasants, Joseph Pleasants Recorded 1 Nov 1706
Deed #6 Bond of William LIGON of Henrico Parish, Henrico County, to Matthew LIGON, son of Richard Ligon of Bristol Parish, same county, 1 Nov 1706, the above William Ligon is brother to Thomas Ligon, dec'd, and mutually agrees to divide the 200 acres in above deeds with Matthew Ligon, son of Richard. Wit: John Pleasants, Joseph Pleasants Recorded 1 Nov 1706
Deed #7 William LIGON to Matthew LIGON, son of Richard Ligon, 100 acres on north side of James River, adjoining John Woodson, the river, and the Curles plantation of William Randolph. 1 Nov 1706 Wit: John Pleasants, Joseph Pleasants Recorded 1 Nov 1706
(again, i have cited this, per other of my posts and and will not re-cite them again here but, per lunenburg co, va deeds, in 1760, our william harris, sr/ frances goode sold 400 acres on both sides of the middle fork of the bluestone creek to gray briggs and two months later gray briggs sold these same 400 acres back to our william harris, sr/ frances goode for the same amount of money.this was gray briggs sister, mary briggs who married in 1757 in sussex co, va a younger halcott pride than the older halcott pride of henrico co, va and whose wife, martha, re-married our peter hudson, sr ca 1723 in henrico co, va.
gray briggs married dorothy pleasants and who was the great-grandaughter of this same john pleasants, who witnessed these henrico co, va deeds re our ligon/ harris family.)
i apologize that all of this is so incredibly involved and that I have talked so much about this,but the fact that is is so involved and can be shown, per these records and these connections, is also important and significant.
finally, i want to repeat why it is that i came on here to talk about all of this again and why this is important-----it is, again, our harris ydna group 8 dna that confirms that my brother, david, #26910 and #213561, and who both have a mutation on their marker 104 which is a 22 and while all of the rest have a 23 on this same marker 104, that shows again that david #26910 and #213561 have a more recent and in-common ancestor and------
again, the only more recent and in-common ancestor that my brother, david, #26910 and #213561 could possibly have with each other is our william harris/ judith hudson, daughter of our peter hudson, sr, who died in 1778 in mecklenburg co, va and who were the parents of david's #26910 and our william harris, sr/ frances goode b ca 1727 and who died ca 1796 and of #213561's sherwood harris b ca 1733 and who died in 1805 in anson co, nc.
belva harris cauthen