oops--i noted in re-reading the post i just posted that i say goode when i mean rodgers and i also say sr when i mean, jr----sorry about that--- but to continue, here is the info on our john mcnees:
this is info fromrootsweb site, again, on line, re info on our john mcnees:
JOHN MCNEES OR MCNEESE
John McNeese, the father of Margaret McNeese Rodgers, etc, was a member of the famous old Cubb Creek (Presbyterian) Settlement founded by John Caldwell, which we have already referred to. John McNeese came as did the others from Pennsylvania but it is not known whether he came with him or whether he followed the group by a few years. The first reference your compiler found in Lunenburg Co. was in 1747. There are a great many land transactions in his name. He acquired 1300 acres at one time on Turnip Creek now in Charlotte Co., VA. He frequently witnessed deeds and wills with the Caldwells and Rodgers. One deed states that his land "cornered on William Rodgers land". *This was the William Rodgers whose son his daughter Margaret married.
While living in Virginia, John McNeesserved in the colonial Militia. For proof of this see Hennig's Statutes at large Vol 7, p 220 - " at a General Assembly held in Williamsburg on Thursday, 14th day of Sept.
(*actually, as I note here, this info is wrong. it is our john Rodgers, sr/ esq who married Margaret mcnees, daughter of our john mcnees and, again, whose sister ann mcnees married Andrew Rodgers, brother of our john Rodgers, sr/ esq; and their sister jane mcnees who married shadrack martin and which, again, can be proven by both these Lunenburg/ charlotte cos, va and the laurens co, sc records.
there was a related William Rodgers also there in Lunenburg/ charlotte co, va but unlike our harris; Rodgers; and mcnees families, who moved ca 1770 to laurens co, sc, that William Rodgers moved to Kentucky.)
- An act for the Defense of the Frontier of this Colony, etc. - Money authorized to be paid to forces".
John McNees, ensign £ 1- 8 s.
John Caldwell £ 14 s.
James Caldwell £ 16 s.
Abraham Martin £ 3- 6 s.
David Caldwell for wagons £ 10- 7 s.
John Rodgers £ 13- 4 s. 6d.
David Caldwell £ 18 s.
Andrew Rodgers £ 1- 2 s.
(again, I cited, per a previous post, re the suit that my/ our William harris, sr/ frances goode had with William marable in 1750 re his having served as the overseer for William marable's plantation from 1745-1749 that not only did this same Abraham martin sign these depositions given by our mackerness goode, sr and his son, our Samuel goode-----
but, per the 1750 Lunenburg co, va tithe list and which, I also just cited in a previous post, both our mackerness goode, sr and our William harris/ Judith Hudson in 1750 were in Abraham martin's district andso, here you have info connecting Abraham martin also with our john mcnees and our john Rodgers and his brother, Andrew Rodgers in this same Luneburg/ Mecklenburg/ charlotte cos, va area.)
here, again, is also the info re the 1750 Lunenburg co, va tithe list that I also posted in a previous post.
again, you can go to the 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list, which can be found on line, and find the following info per cornelius cargill's district:
peter hudson, jr 1 tithe
james hudson 1 tithe
william mcgenniss 3 tithes
peter hudson, sr 3 tithes
john bolling 1 tithe
john wilborn 1 tithe
again, I think that the fact that john wilborn/ judith are listed down below our peter hudson, sr and our peter hudson, jr and his brother, our james hudson/ agnes burton also indicates to me that john wilborn's wife, judith, was a hudson but more of the info, already cited, indicates to me that judith was probably the daughter of richard hudson/ ann, who was the nephew of our peter hudson, sr.
again, both my/ our mackerness goode, sr and our william harris/ judith hudson are in abraham martin's district per this same 1750 lunenburg co, va tithe list:
reps osborne 1 tithe
mcness goode 5 tithes
phillip goode 1 tithe
captain stephen bedford
william hunt 4 tithes
richard ward 2 tithes
william harris 2 tithes
to continue with the info on our john mcnees:
From Order Book 6, p 128 Lunenburg Co. we find the following: Silvanus Walker having produced two several commissions from the honorable Francis Fauquier, Esq. His majesties' Lieutenant Governor and Commander-in-chief of this colony, the said Sylvanus Walker to be an Ensign under Captain Daniel Claiborne and the said John McNeese to be an Ensign under Capt. Richard Dudgeon, who took the usual oath to his Majesties' Pension. Government and Repeated and Subscribed to the test. June Court 1760.
For record of this appointment see also Landon Bell's Old Free State, Vol. 1, p 193.
John Mcneese had a number of land grants in Virginia as he did in S.C. later. By 1770 he is living in S.C. in what is now Laurens Co., known then as Berkeley Co. He is selling his lands in Charlotte Co. in that year and he is referred to as a resident of Bartlett/Berkley Co. in S.C.
John McNeese was a member of the First Provincial Congress held in Charleston, S.C. on Jan. 11, 1775. He represented the District between the Broad and Saluda Rivers. The following men from this district Viz: Col. Thomas Fletchall, Major John Caldwell, Messrs. Charles King, John Williams, John Satterhwaite, Jonhathan Downs, James Williams, James Creswell, John McNees, Robert Cunningham, George Ross, Samuel Savage, John Thomas, John Ford, John Caldwell, John Gordon, John Prince were appointed to look after certain matters in their own district such as seeing that the inhabitants of the colony gave preference to their own flour and other manufactures, regulation of proceedings in regard to debts and foreclosure of Mortgages, for receiving and determining upon application relative to law processes and for affectedly carrying into execution the continental association. (From Peter Force Collection of American Archives, 4th Series Vol. 1, p 1110. This being a quotation from Memoirs of the American Revolution by William Monultirie, Gov. of S.C. and Major General of the U.S. Army during the American War.) Seealso O'Neal's Annals of Newberry p 204.
John McNeese died between Nov, 27, 1779, date of his will and Nov. 1, 1800, the date of probation. His will is on file in Camden, S.C. Under ordinary circumstances the will would have been filed in Charleston, but the British armies were between Laurens and Charleston, so it was filed in the district court of Camden. The following is an Abstract of the will:
Nov. 27, 1779. Wife Mary, Daughter Margaret Rogers: daughter Jean Mertin (Martin?): daughter _ Armstrong: daughter _ Waldrop: son, James McNeis: daughter, Mary Young, wife of Hugh Young: son Bert McLaglan (Robert): daughter Ann Rogers: daughter Mary McLaelen. "The rest of my estate I do bequeath to my beloved Adam McCool." Witnesses: James Johnston, Jean McCool, Adam McCool. Probated Mar. 1 1780.
The wife Mary mentioned in will must have been a second wife as the early deeds in Lunenburg Co. give the name of his wife as Margaret. The daughter Margaret married John Rodgers Esq. The daughter Ann was probably the wife of Andrew Rodgers who left will in Laurens Co. proved 1821. The daughter Jean Martin was probably the wife of Shadrach Martin who came, and was a witness for John McNeese on one occasion in Charlotte. The son, Robert was the ancestor of Dr. David Bancroft Johnson, founder of Winthrop College, through Roberts daughter Sabra who married as her second husband a White. They were the parents of Dr. Johnson's mother, Margaret White.
again, our William harris, jr/ frances Rodgers died in 1799 in laurens co, sc and our frances Rodgers harris also died there in laurens co, sc in 1801----
and, again, I have also cited laurenz co, sc records previously in these post that connects our Charles harris/ jane cannon with his mother, our frances Rodgers harris; with both our Robert carter, sr and our Robert carter, jr, who was the father of our Elizabeth carter harris, wife of our Archibald harris and who, again, were the parents of our james harris/ anne cooper, who died in 1872 in Paulding co, ga; and also with Thomas burton and lydall allen.
again, Thomas burton was the son of james burton, sr, named as a legatee in the 1752/ 1753 Halifax co, va will of our peter Hudson, sr, father of our Judith Hudson harris, and james burton, sr's daughter agnes burton married james Hudson, also son of our peter Hudson, sr.
again, this was lydall allen's sister mary/polly allen, who married john l harris, brother of our Charles harris/ jane cannon and sons of our William harris, jr/ frances Rodgers and they were the children of Charles allen, jr/ lucy bacon smith and per the 1764 tithe list for Lunenburg co, va, our William harris, sr/ frances goode; her father, our mackerness goode, sr; our james Hudson/ agnes burton and her father, james burton, sr and his sons, james burton, jr and Thomas burton were all in Charles allen, sr's district.
in this post, and to repeat, I have now shown, per the records, that it was not only our carter family, who knew and were involved there in laurens co, sc with our Charles harris/ jane cannon and his parents, our William harris, jr/ frances Rodgers, but also green berry turner, sr/ Margaret Hopkins and their turner and Hopkins families and who, again, had also moved to Paulding co, gaand, then------
I have also shown and, again, per the info/ records on our john mcnees, father of our Margaret Rodgers mcness and her sisters, ann mcnees Rodgers and jane mcnees martin----
that our john mcnees; our Rodgers family; our William harris/ Judith Hudson; their son; our William harris, sr/ frances goode; and our mackerness goode, sr were all involved there in this same Lunenburg/ charlotte cos, va area with the same Abraham martin and because, again, this is important, I am going to repeat in a subsequent post all of these connections they had with this same Abraham martin there in this same Lunenburg/ charlotte cos, va area.
belva harris cauthen
to be continued-------