Bill, I am not only a descendant of Rudolph Hawpe but also a descendant of the Koiner/Coiner Family you refer to. Adam Hawpe was married to Catherine Coiner daughter of George Adam Coiner son of Michael Keinadt (aka: Michael Coiner/Koiner). The Keinadt Family Group is currently learning that a lot ofthe information they have on Hawpe descendants is erronous information. They rely on a book from the 1895 era that was full of omissions and errors and was produced by Absalom Koiner son of Elizabeth Koiner daughter of Susannah Hawpe daughter of Rudolph Hawpe. He should have got it right but he didn't.