Re: Hollins 1800s Rugeley Staffordshire.
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Re: Hollins 1800s Rugeley Staffordshire.
Sharon Piddock 10/17/05
Hi, Sharon,
I have done some digging around in the IGI and I am sure that the cnsus enumerator must have been drunk! A William Hollins appears there as christened on 2nd March 1820, so he must have been at least 21 at the time of the 1841 census! His parents fit as William Hollins and Sarah, and there is a marriage for them on 23rd March 1818, where she appears as Sarah Flin.
Then there is a Williams Hollings (I often get an extra g myself!) christened in Hamstall Ridware on 17th December 1797. As he was alive in 1841 and I seem to remember in 1851 too, that can be checked by a death certificate. His parentsare shown as William Hollins and Sarah. The IGi does not seem to have any more Hamstall records, but they are available for a few quid from Birmingham and West Mids Family Society at: http://www.genfair.com/shop/pages/bms/page08.htmlhttp://www.genfair.com/shop/pages/bms/page08.html
The William buried in Hamstall died on 11th Feb 1771, aged 66, albeit his name is recorded as Hollis at No. 33
http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/HamstallRidware/MIs.htmlhttp://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/HamstallRidware/MIs.html
There is a Sarah Flyn christened on 15th April 1798, whose parents are Michael Flyn and Mary. At the time, there was lots of canal building going on around this area and most of the labourers were Irish, so I expect that is the origin of this branch - which goes back to the Leitrim area, east of Sligo in northeast Ireland.
Edward, the youngest son/brother was born on 26th May 1836, working from his grave inscription. I seem to remember that on the 1851 census, it looked like William snr had remarried and there werecertainly more kids in the house, so I suspect Edward had just felt crowded out and left before that census. He said he had served for 12 years and 12 days in the Cape Mounted Rifles, being discharged at Canterbury, Kent on 13th June 1864. By coincidence, I know someone, who is an expert on the CMR and, while it is not clear, it looks like he was one of 200 men recruited in UK for the CMR, who arrived in South Africa in 1863 - and Edward was a private throughout. It seems he missed the missed all their fighting, the last battle being the 20 December 1852 action against Moshoeshoe (Moshesh) at Berea Mountain in Lesotho. He married Charlotte Hughes at Holy Trinity Church in King William Town on 1st February 1860 and their first child, Emma was born there on 15th December, although there is no KWT record of a christening and so, it looks like he was moved to Graham Town quitye soon after and Elizabeth was born there on 1st March 1862. She died on 28th March 1863 in Grahamtown. By 24th October 1863, they are back in Canterbury as Margaret was born there that day and Emma died there on 11th April. He said he was discharged on 13th June 1864. I am not quite sure what to make of these dates as they do not fit! I did look for his records in the CMR boxes at the PRO in Kew, but his records were not there, although I have not consulted the pay books. There was a rush of white recruitment in Cape Colony in 1851 after non-whites mutinied, so maybe he has got his years muddled up. If he was out there in 1852, he might have been involved in fierce fighting in the 8th Cape Frontier war. Anyway, two squadrons were stood down in 1862 and four more in 1864, the latter fitting in with Edward.
On 24th January 1866, Edward jnr (also my ancestor) was born in Walsall Wood and Edward snr seems to have beena labourer for all of 1867 with Walsall Police, before becoming a polioce constable there on 21st December 1867 - with the collar number of 99! After training, he was posted to Nuneaton Division and there are 5 children born at Chilvers Coton in that division between 17th February 1866 and 11th March 1876. He was promoted to2nd Clas Constable on 21st December 1868 and First Class on 28th October 1870. He was then posted to Aston Division on 18th August 1876 and then Rugby Division on 25th April 1881. There he was based at Napton, where he died on 9th June 1886 aged 50 years and 14 days.
Edward junior was also in the police as was his his son, Edward Wallace, although I am descended through a third son, Alfred. My sister has served in the Met Police and my brother-in-law is still in the Met.
Looking at Charlotte again, she appears in the 1881 census as 40 and thus, was only 16 or perhaps just 17 when she sailed aboard the Lady Kennaway to South Africa in 1857, whereas the records show her as a 19 year old servant girl from Dublin. There had been a recruitment of 153 Irish girls to be servants in the KWT area, where the colony was being expanded.
I will come back with any more, but I think I shall offer my DNA to the familytreedna.com project. Regards, Dave
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