I would be interested in what the S. stands for in Herbert's name. My father was an H.S., his grandfather was an H.S. also. Family originated in NY about 1820 as best I can figure. first H.S. was a judge in Itaska County, Minnesota. Grandpa moved his wife and my father to Everett, Washington, via Vancouver, B.C. prior to 1820 flu outbreak. Buried one brother in Montana, returned to Everett and himself died of the flu when my father was 12-13 years old.