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Re: Irving- worth a shot on the Irvine board

By robert wilson September 15, 2008 at 11:01:11
  • In reply to: Irving- worth a shot on the Irvine board
    David Irving 10/29/07

Your Matthew Stanley Shaw Irving was born in Bolton Lancashire as Mathhew Shaw.
Births Sep 1883
ShawMatthew StanleyBolton8c 380

He appears in the 1901 census with his (biological father?)
Matthew Irving
1901 census index
Matthew Irving 58 Scotland Lancashire Withington Insurance Manager Retired
William H Irving 27 Cumberland Cleaton Lancaster Didsbury Dioenity Student
Matthew S Irving 17 Lancashire Bolton Lancashire Withington Insurance Surveyor

This Matthew Irving appears in the 1881 census
Matthew IRVINGHeadMMale36ScotlandSecretary Fire & Life Insce Co
Alice A. M. IRVINGWifeMFemale36Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Washington IRVINGSonMale15PrestburyScholar
Matthew IRVINGSonMale13Manchester, Lancashire, EnglandScholar
William T. IRVINGSonMale9Manchester, Lancashire, EnglandScholar
John F. IRVINGSonMale7Manchester, Lancashire, EnglandScholar
Lucy BRADYSister In LawUFemale22Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary MORTONServUFemale21Beeley, Derby, EnglandCook
Ann MORTONServUFemale16Beeley, Derby, EnglandHousemaid
Source Information:
Dwelling16 Acomb St
Census Place Chorlton On Medlock, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film1341937
Public Records Office ReferenceRG11
Piece / Folio3922 / 56
Page Number73

Marriages Jun 1867
BradyAlice Ada MStockport8a 98
IRVINGMatthewStockport8a 98

The clue to Matthew's family is the CWGC entry

Name: IRVING, MATTHEW STANLEY SHAW
Initials: M S S
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment)
Unit Text: 27th Bn.
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/07/1917
Service No: 1000429
Additional information: Son of Matthew Irving, of Withington, Manchester, England; husband of Emily Gertrude Butterworth Irving, Minnedosa. Manitoba.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 11.
Cemetery: FOSSE No.10 COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION, SAINS-EN-GOHELLE

He also appears in the 1861 census in Lancashire with his mother Agnes and brother Washington

1861 census index Lancashire
Agnes Irving name abt 1818 Dumfries-Shire, Scotland relation city, Lancashire
Matthew Irving name,
name abt 1845 Dumfries-Shire, Scotland relation city, Lancashire
Robert Irvingabt 1797 Dumfries-Shire, Scotland relation city, Lancashire
Washington Irving name,
name abt 1842 Dumfries-Shire, Scotland relation city, Lancashire
William P Irving name,
name abt 1847 Dumfries-Shire, Scotland relation city, Lancashire

Wasdhington's parets are listed in the IGI

WASHINGTON IRVING IRVING
Birth:26 MAR 1842
Christening:29 MAR 1842Gretna, Dumfries, Scotland
Father:NATH. IRVINGFamily
Mother:AGNES GRAHAM

Matthew is probabaly living with his grandfather in Gretna in 1851??

1851 census Gretna Dumfriesshire
Name: IRVING , Matthew
Address: Browhouses(827)
Parish: Gretna
Relationship: head of household
Marital Status: widower
Occupation: MERCHANT retired
Age: 74
Born: born Annan Dms
Household No: 6/53

Name: IRVING , Matthew
Address: Browhouses(827)
Parish: Gretna
Relationship: grandson of Matthew Irving
Marital Status:
Occupation: SCHOLAR
Age: 6
Born: born Graitney Dms
Household No: 6/53


Matthew Irving who married Jane Dickson was still married to her in 1901. He was the son of William Irving and Margaret Dalgleish. She died and he reamrried in 1838 to Jessie Dunkeld. Their daughter Margaret Harkness Pool Irving is named for her parent's mothers. ie Margaret Harkness the mother of Jessie Dunkeld and Margaret Poll the mother of William Irving. He was the son of Matthew Irving sea captain and Margaret Pool who are my ancestors. Cheers Robbie Wilson

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