If I explain that I have what the surgeon who gave me a 4 way by pass a few years ago cautioned me that I would probably experience the rest of my life ... meaning short term memory problems would that excuse my saying I do not remember. If you are a descendant of Hiram Douglas the Preacher then perhaps we did. I am sorry about my memory problem.
I do know of a Kaiser family who came from the old Nassau-Saarwerden County (read land owned by Counts) which was after hundreds if not thousands of years property of Nassau where Saarbruecken and Idstein were capitals and then gained during the Napoleon era as property of France in 1793 and attached then to Northern Elsass (Alsace) which the French named Bas-Rhin. I have also found some in American records which came from there. When you speak of Alsace-Lorraine Germany then you are speaking of the three regions which were Elsass, Alsace to the French when hey gained it in 1648 after the conclusion of the Thirty Years War, Lorraine which became officially part of France in 1766 and the Nassau-Saarwerden County,which was surrounded by both Alsace and Lorraine and became part of France in 1793. So it was the Prussians who became in charge in 1871 and renamed the region as Alsace-Lorraine. So when you speak of Alsace-Lorraine during that period then it included what had been Nassau-Saarwerden then attached to Bas-Rhin department of France. So when we say Alsace-Lorraine it all depends upon when the Kaisers emigrated and came to America. Yes it is possible they referred to Alsace-Lorraine and they were trying to explain which part of Europe they came from. As for Douglas my grandmother was a daughter of Hiram Luke a son of Hiram Douglas. John V. Reeb, proud of my Douglas and also proud of my Reeb heritage.