Pioneer David Letourneau
Descendants of David Letourneau
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide
Generation No. 1
1.David1 Letourneau was born about 1595 in Saintonge, France.He married Jeanne Dupen.She was born about 1595 in Saintonge, France.
Child of David Letourneau and Jeanne Dupen is:
+ 2 i. David2 Letourneau, born about 1616 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France; died 13 May 1670 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
Generation No. 2
2.David2 Letourneau (David1) was born about 1616 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France, and died 13 May 1670 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.He married (1) Sebastienne Guery 10 Jun 1640 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France.She was born about 1620 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France, and died Bef. 06 Jul 1654 in Saintonge, France.He married (2) Jeanne Baril 06 Jul 1654 in St. Germain de Marencennes, Saintonges, France.She was born about 1616 in Saintonge, France, and died Aft. 05 Feb 1694 in Unknown, QC.
Notes for David Letourneau:
He was married twice in France.David had two children with his second wife while in France.He came to Canada in May of 1658 with two sons from his first marriage.Later in 1665 his second wife Jeanne Baril with her two children joined her husband in Canada.
On 24 Aug 1661, David purchased land at Ste. Famille, Île d'Orléans from Francois Dupont.This parcel was given to David's son David Jr. when he married Francoise Chapelain in 1664.
David (the father) was first noted at Chateau Richer on 16 June 1664.He is listed in the 1666 Beauport census as 50 year old "d'Avit Estourneau".He was (un musnier) a miller.His wife Jeanne Baril was listed as his 33 years old wife Jeanne Baxille.Few of these pioneers were concerned with the spelling of their names.Their children Izabeau a 12 year old girl and Phillip an 8 year old son, were also listed.Then in the 1667 census, we find him at Beaupre and still 50 years old.He was in control of two flour mills in the seigniory of Beauport that belonged to Mgr. de Laval.One of the mills was run by water and the other by the wind.
When he died in 1670 they claimed he was 47.
The surname Letourneau perhaps comes from his profession and that of his ancestors. "Le Tourneau" meaning "the turner" in English.As in the turning of a wind mill.
Children of David Letourneau and Sebastienne Guery are:
+ 3 i. David3 Letourneau, born 03 Feb 1642 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France; died 23 Feb 1709 in Québec City, QC.
+ 4 ii. Jean Letourneau, born 29 Aug 1647 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France; died 23 Apr 1722 in Québec City, QC.
Children of David Letourneau and Jeanne Baril are:
+ 5 i. Elisabeth3 Letourneau, born 26 May 1655 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France; died 18 May 1708 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec de la Pérade, QC.
6 ii. Philippe Letourneau, born 04 Jan 1657 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France.
Generation No. 3
3.David3 Letourneau (David2, David1) was born 03 Feb 1642 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France, and died 23 Feb 1709 in Québec City, QC.He married Francoise Chapelain 16 Jun 1664 in La Visitation Notre Dame, Château Richer, Montmorency, QC (ct 01 Feb, Aubert), daughter of Louis Chapelain-dit-LeTourneur and Francoise Dechaux-dit-Latourneuse/Laschault.She was born about 1648 in Brive la Gaillande, Limoges, Limousin, France, and died 13 May 1729 in Québec City, QC.
Notes for David Letourneau:
He was about 16 when he arrived in New France with his father and brother.David is recorded in the 1666, 1667 and 1681census at Île d'Orléans.He was about 16 when he arrived in New France with his father and brother.David is recorded in the 1666, 1667 and 1681census at Ile d'Orleans.
Notes for Francoise Chapelain:
She was about 2 years old when she arrived in New France with her parents.A marriage contract was drawn up for Francoise and Charles Allaire, by notary Audouart on 23 July 1662.This contract was annulled.
Children of David Letourneau and Francoise Chapelain are:
7 i. Marie-Anne-Francoise4 Letourneau, born 24 May 1665 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 05 May 1687 in St. Jean de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.She married Denis Charland-dit-Francoeur 17 Nov 1681 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; born 31 Jan 1656 in Sillery, QC; died 25 Feb 1703 in St. Jean Île d'Orléans, QC.
8 ii. Francoise Letourneau, born 10 Apr 1667 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 01 Feb 1693 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.She married Simon Gaulin 12 Jul 1685 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 18 Dec 1661 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 27 Aug 1687 in Montréal, QC.
+ 9 iii. Louis Letourneau, born 29 Jan 1669 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Jul 1743 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
+ 10 iv. Elisabeth-Isabelle Letourneau, born 15 Apr 1671 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; died 18 Oct 1715 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC.
+ 11 v. Bernard Letourneau, born 30 Aug 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 22 Mar 1750 in Chambly, QC.
12 vi. Marguerite Letourneau, born 17 Sep 1675 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 03 Oct 1721 in Montréal, QC.
Notes for Marguerite Letourneau:
She became a professional nun in Montréal on 1 July 1698 and took the name Sister Saint Pierre.
13 vii. Madeleine Letourneau, born 30 Sep 1677 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 30 Apr 1683 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
14 viii. Marie-Catherine Letourneau, born 13 Nov 1679 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 29 Nov 1761 in Ste. Croix, Lotbinière, QC.She married Pierre Morisset 24 Nov 1698 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; born 05 Jan 1676 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 22 Nov 1731 in Ste. Croix, Lotbinière, QC.
15 ix. Marie-Louise Letourneau, born 07 Dec 1681 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 18 Sep 1752 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.She married (1) Pierre Gagnon 18 Jan 1700 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 30 Jan 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 09 Feb 1703 in Ste. Famille, Île d'Oleans, QC.She married (2) Pierre Drouin 07 Apr 1704 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 11 Apr 1677 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
Notes for Pierre Gagnon:
He died of smallpox.
16 x. Jacques Letourneau, born 05 Nov 1683 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 01 Feb 1763 in Hôpital Général de Québec City, QC.He married (1) Marguerite Blouin-dit-Laviolette 18 Jul 1709 in Unknown, QC; born 09 Aug 1685 in St. Jean Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; died 19 Jul 1753 in Québec City, QC.He married (2) Marie Rateau, (Pierre & Catherine Barbesson) 26 Nov 1753 in Québec City, QC; born about 1733 in Unknown, QC; died 29 Nov 1800 in Rivière du Loup, Louiseville, QC.
+ 17 xi. Marie-Therese Letourneau, born 12 Aug 1685 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 24 Jul 1710 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
+ 18 xii. Jean Letourneau, born 28 Jul 1687 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Aug 1731 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
19 xiii. Joseph Letourneau, born 28 Jul 1687 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 01 Oct 1687 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
4.Jean3 Letourneau (David2, David1) was born 29 Aug 1647 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France, and died 23 Apr 1722 in Québec City, QC.He married (1) Jeanne-Claude DeBoisandre, (Jacq.&M.Devieuville) 15 Jan 1668 in Unknown, QC.She was born about 1644 in Normandie, France, and died Bet. 12 Sep 1669 - 24 Jul 1671 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married (2) Anne Dufresne 18 Apr 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC (ct 28 June, Vachon), daughter of Pierre Dufresne and Anne Patin.She was born about 1658 in Unknown, QC, and died 14 Feb 1738 in Montmagny, QC.
Child of Jean Letourneau and Anne Dufresne is:
20 i. Jean-Baptiste4 Letourneau, born 20 Oct 1688 in St. Laurent Île Ouelle, QC; died 08 Apr 1730 in Québec City, QC.He married Marguerite Asselin 13 Apr 1711 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; born 12 Sep 1692 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC; died 22 Oct 1714 in Montmorency, QC.
5.Elisabeth3 Letourneau (David2, David1) was born 26 May 1655 in Muron, Rochefort, Tornay Charente, Saintonge, France, and died 18 May 1708 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec de la Pérade, QC.She married Mathurin Tessier, (Thomas & Elisabeth Poirier) 23 Sep 1670 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.He was born about 1640 in Charente, France, and died 19 Jan 1703 in Montmagny, QC.
Child of Elisabeth Letourneau and Mathurin Tessier is:
21 i. Marie-Jeanne4 Tessier, born 22 May 1685 in La Pérade, QC; died 29 Sep 1748 in La Pérade, QC.She married (1) Jean-Baptiste Gervais, (Charles &Jacquette Rose) 09 Jan 1700 in La Pérade, QC; born about 1675 in St. Gervais,Bretagne, France; died Bef. 30 Nov 1726 in La Pérade, QC.She married (2) Pierre Levesque 30 Nov 1726 in La Pérade, QC; born about 1678 in La Pérade, QC; died 15 Jan 1750 in La Pérade, QC.
Generation No. 4
9.Louis4 Letourneau (David3, David2, David1) was born 29 Jan 1669 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 12 Jul 1743 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married (1) Anne-Marie Blouin-dit-Laviolette 19 Nov 1696 in St. Jean de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, daughter of Emery Blouin-dit-Laviolette and Marie Carreau.She was born 06 Apr 1678 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 20 Dec 1749 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married (2) Anne-Marie Blouin-Laviolette 19 Nov 1696 in St. Jean, I.O., QC, daughter of Emery Blouin-Laviolette and Marie Carreau-dit-Lafraicheur.She was born 06 Apr 1678 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC, and died 20 Dec 1749 in St. Laurent I. O, QC.
Child of Louis Letourneau and Anne-Marie Blouin-Laviolette is:
22 i. Marie- Genevieve5 Letourneau, born 08 Nov 1720 in St. Laurent I. O, QC; died 11 Mar 1812 in St Pierre de laRivière de Sud, QC.She married Pierre Gagne-dit-Belavance 20 Oct 1738 in St Laurent I.O., Quecbec, Canada; born about 1716 in Unknown, QC; died 21 Feb 1777 in St Pierre de laRivière de Sud, QC.
10.Elisabeth-Isabelle4 Letourneau (David3, David2, David1) was born 15 Apr 1671 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC, and died 18 Oct 1715 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC.She married Robert Gaulin 05 Jul 1688 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC (ct 28 June, Vachon), son of Francois Gaulin and Marie Rochon/Rocheron.He was born 26 Sep 1668 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC, and died 12 Sep 1723 in Pointe aux Trembles, Montréal, QC.
Children of Elisabeth-Isabelle Letourneau and Robert Gaulin are:
23 i. Marie5 Gaulin, born 29 Apr 1689 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 09 Mar 1746 in Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.She married Ignace Caron 15 Nov 1707 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC (ct 27 Oct, Chambalon); born 10 Dec 1679 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 27 Dec 1774 in L'Islet, l'Islet, QC.
24 ii. Elizabeth Gaulin, born 27 Nov 1690 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 15 Dec 1690 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
25 iii. Louis-Francois Gaulin, born 19 Jun 1692 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 06 Mar 1707 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
26 iv. Louis Gaulin, born 16 May 1694 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Aug 1759 in L'Ancienne Lorette, QC.He married (1) Marie-Madeleine Campagna, (Charles & M.M.Blouin) 22 Nov 1717 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born about 1695 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 17 Dec 1749 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married (2) Marie-Gertrude Verieul-dit-Veilleux 22 Feb 1751 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 21 Mar 1708 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Apr 1790 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
27 v. Marie-Madeleine Gaulin, born 02 May 1696 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 26 Apr 1736 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré de Québec City, QC.She married Augustin Caron 21 Nov 1712 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 12 Mar 1682 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 03 May 1757 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
28 vi. Jean-Baptiste Gaulin, born 08 May 1698 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 28 Apr 1771 in Québec City, QC.He married Marie-Therese Bouchard-dit-Dorval 03 Jun 1720 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 02 Aug 1697 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 17 Jan 1733 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
29 vii. Marie-Marthe Gaulin, born 05 May 1700 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Sep 1719 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré de Québec City, QC.She married Claude Caron 26 Apr 1716 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 24 Sep 1684 in Beaupre, Montmorency, QC.
30 viii. Marie-Ursule Gaulin, born 12 May 1702 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 04 May 1741 in Montréal, QC.
Notes for Marie-Ursule Gaulin:
She became a nun in Montréal about 1726.She took the name Sister Sainte Francoise.
31 ix. Marie-Dorothee Gaulin, born 11 Feb 1704 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 26 Mar 1732 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.She married Louis Fortin-dit-Bellefontaine 05 Feb 1725 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, QC; born about 1692 in Unknown, QC; died 12 Aug 1758 in St. Vallier, QC.
32 x. Antoine Gaulin, born 05 Jul 1706 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 02 Oct 1739 in St. François de Sales de la Rivière du Sud, Montmagny, QC.He married Brigite Gagne-dit-Belavance 13 Nov 1735 in Unknown, QC; born about 1717 in Unknown, QC; died 20 Jan 1742 in St. Pierre de la Rivière du Sud, QC.
33 xi. Augustin Gaulin, born 31 Aug 1708 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 09 May 1776 in St. François de Sales, Île Jésus, QC.He married (1) Marie-Genevieve Hogue, (Jean B. & Barbe Coiteux) 06 Jun 1735 in Rivière des Prairies, QC; born 20 Nov 1717 in Rivière des Prairies, QC; died 14 Nov 1747 in St. François de Sales, Île Jésus, QC.He married (2) Francoise Labelle, (Pierre & Jeanne Boulard) 25 Nov 1748 in St. François de Sales, Île Jésus, QC; born 29 Jan 1720 in St. François de Sales, Île Jésus, QC.
34 xii. Simon Gaulin, born 17 Oct 1710 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died Bef. 14 Jun 1745 in Unknown, QC.He married Marie-Louise Langlois, (Augustin &M.L.Bordereau) 06 Feb 1741 in Kaskaskia; born about 1720 in Unknown, QC.
35 xiii. Marie-Josephe Gaulin, born 27 Sep 1712 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 24 Feb 1801 in Cap St. Ignace, Montmagny, QC.She married (1) Charles Caron 04 Jun 1731 in L'Islet, l'Islet, QC; born about 1709 in Unknown, QC; died 05 Dec 1749 in L'Islet, l'Islet, QC.She married (2) Jean-Francois Labbe, (Jacques & Franc. Deblois) 05 Jul 1751 in L'Iset, l'Islet, QC; born about 1731 in Unknown, QC; died 18 Jun 1790 in St. Jean Port Joli, QC.
36 xiv. Elizabeth-Thecle Gaulin, born 17 Oct 1715 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
11.Bernard4 Letourneau (David3, David2, David1) was born 30 Aug 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 22 Mar 1750 in Chambly, QC.He married (1) Marie Rochon/Rocheron 02 Jun 1698 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, daughter of Gervais Rochon/Rocheron and Marie-Madeleine Guyon-dit-Dion.She was born 24 Feb 1679 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 22 Jan 1703 in St. Jean de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC.He married (2) Marie-Helene Paquet/Pasquier 30 Sep 1703 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, daughter of Rene Paquet/Pasquier and Marie-Helene Lemieux.She was born 07 Dec 1682 in Basse Ville, Québec City, QC, and died 06 May 1758 in Chambly, QC.
Child of Bernard Letourneau and Marie-Helene Paquet/Pasquier is:
37 i. Joseph5 Letourneau, born 17 Aug 1704 in St. Jeande l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married Marie-Angelique Bouteiller/Bouthillier 13 Jan 1738 in Longueuil, Chambly, QC; born 31 Aug 1716 in Longueuil, Chambly, QC; died 24 Jul 1754 in Chambly, QC.
17.Marie-Therese4 Letourneau (David3, David2, David1) was born 12 Aug 1685 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 24 Jul 1710 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.She married Jean-Baptiste Leblond 25 Jun 1703 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC, son of Nicolas Leblond and Marguerite Leclerc.He was born 13 Dec 1670 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 18 Apr 1719 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
Child of Marie-Therese Letourneau and Jean-Baptiste Leblond is:
38 i. Agnes5 Leblond, born 14 Feb 1707 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 30 May 1787 in St. Henri de Lauzon, QC.She married Louis Bolduc, (Jacques & Marie Anne Racine) 24 May 1728 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born about 1702 in Unknown, QC.
18.Jean4 Letourneau (David3, David2, David1) was born 28 Jul 1687 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 12 Aug 1731 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.He married Marie-Marguerite Caron 19 Apr 1706 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC, daughter of Robert Caron and Marguerite Cloutier.She was born 08 Jul 1688 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC, and died 30 Dec 1758 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
Child of Jean Letourneau and Marie-Marguerite Caron is:
39 i. Marie-Marguerite5 Letourneau, born 09 Dec 1707 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.She married Joseph Fortin-dit-Bellefontaine 05 Nov 1727 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 18 Sep 1696 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, QC; died 05 Jan 1738 in L'Islet, l'Islet, QC.
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My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.
Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with over 19,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.
I did not record all the children in these large families unless they were my ancestors’ children.It would be way too much to record all the children of these distant cousins.
PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name.
As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.
Most of my information for the 1800-1900s comes from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.
It is like I said in the beginning; use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science.
As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.
Enjoy, Janet