Re: Libbert Family of Missouri
Its been a couple of years since our paths crossed here, but I thought I would undate you on my Libbert research.
I have managed to separate our two Libbert families and pick my ancestors out from among your's there in the St. Jospeh area.
I recently found information that indicated my grandmother, Lucy Libbert, was born in Miller County. From there I found her father Henry married to her mother Mary (Bond Nee Etter)
with Lucy as a five year old in the 1900 Jim Henry Township, Miller County census.
On back tracking, I found Henry's father (another Henry) spelling his name LIBERT (one "L") in the same locality in the 1880 census. In later records different spellings were used.
The 1880 Henry(1) had with him a daughter, Elizabeth, and sons Arnold and a John. Two known children are missing from this family. One is my g grandfather (Henry(2), father of Lucy), and his brother Casper. Henry(1) is widowed in 1880.
Henry(2)'s obit(1949) mentioned a brother Casper and a brother Arnold. I found Casper in 1900 and 1910 in Salina Township, Miller County, and 1930 in Jim Henry Township, Miller County. Arnold never married and lived with his father in 1880 and was living with his sister, Elizabeth,
in 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930. Elizabeth married Henry Luckenhoff, who died young. Elizabeth never remarried, thus the reason Arnold probably remainded in her household.
I never found John, or haven't yet. For awhile I had him confused with your John Libbert and even had that John entered into my data base, since he lived in Jim Henry Township, Miller County, in one of the census' for that era.
Since all of Henry(1)'s children were born in St. Louis, I realized I had the wrong John. So my John remains missing.
None of my Libberts are in Miller County in 1870. I summize from that, that all of the children were born in St. Louis. Henry(2) was born in 1864 and his death certificate, and obit, indicate he was born in St. Louis. Brother John was born in 1868, and was the youngest. Interesting thing about this John. He was born the same year your John L. was born. That is what threw me into that whirlwind. Do you know anything of this John?
Henry(1), Elizabeth, Casper and his wife Mary, and a few other Libberts and Luckenhoffs (spelled Luebbert and Lueckenhoff) are buried in Miller County cemeteries. I believe even some of your Libberts are buried in the same cemeteries. Henry(2) and his wife Mary are buried here in Oklahome where they moved their family to between 1900 and 1906. In 1908, their daughter, Lucy Libbert, was enrolled in a confirmation class as a member of the Holy Family Catholic Church here in Tulsa.
Somewhere there may be a connection between our Libbert families, but if so, it may go back beyond 1880 or 1870. Otherwise it would seem an odd coincidence that all of these Libberts (Luebberts, Liberts, Lubberts, etc) would all collect in the same general area at the same time.
My Freymuth line did that in ST. Charles County, but they were all one family, descended from John Freimuth, the original immigrant of that family line.
My search centers now on St Louis in 1870, trying to find Henry(1) with his wife and children. Since Henry(1) was born in Germany (Prussia) in 1822, and his oldest child, Elizabeth, was born in St. Louis 1860, I would expect his immigration took place in the 1850s.
Still a lot of work to do. If you happened to have run into any of my Libberts in your travels or searches, I can use all the help I can get, St, Louis is a BIG place to be searching in for anything. Dave -B