Re: Gamel Musgrove, B: 1030

Hi I just had to write, I am also tracing my musgrave line, and I am desended from the Harcla Castle side, abt 1400 a Thomas Musgrave son of Sir Richard and Elizabeth (Fitzwilliam) moved to Leeds (my line)I have been lucky enough to trace them all the way back. The name Gamel means old therefore Gamel Musgrave just means old musgrave.

The musgraves came over to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and soon afterwards obtained a grant of a Manor in Westmorland which became known as the manor of Musgrave. There is no record of them here before 1066.It is believed that they were originaly German and a musgrave married an archduchess of Austria and one of their descendents is the one that came with William.

The estates in Westmorland and Cumberland were sold by Sir richard Musgrave 12 baronet (1872-1926)The title came into the family via Sir Thomas Musgrave in 1350 when he was summoned to Parliament.I have quite a bit of information regarding the familiy.I live in England and have visted the site of Harcla Castle.I would love to share any info If I can be of help,contact me via my e-mail

Elaine