Gloria: You ask "What makes you think this is a relative?" I don't think they or you are a relative. You have not provided enought information even for me to speculate that August is even from Germany, where my Oberst ancestors came. I have 18 "August Obersts" who are ancestors but without more information, like where they were married in New York State, who were the best man and woman, what was the name and type of Church, etc. then we may never know. I was simply trying to help. I have 1600 ancestors with the name Oberst which are on my web site http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/b/e/Thomas-P-Obersthttp://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/b/e/Thomas-P-Oberst In 1890 there were several "August Oberst" in the New York City Directory. You may want to start your search there.