Hank, I'm sure I've asked you this on the OHL site, but do you know where in Germany your relatives came from. I was in Northern Germany this May, but unfortunately didn't get to the Archives. I have a cousin in Switzerland (who speaks English), and he will be going back up there in Dec to visit his father. He will be going to the Archives in Kiel to do some research. Let me know if you have any more clues. Barbara ps, My grandfather's brother was a doctor, and I know have some pictures, but unfortunately I still don't know his name. It may have been Alfred or Wilhelme. His father was Otto Carl Joseph Ohl, and we know have a family group picture at my grandparents wedding. All the male Ohls in my family were over 6'.