In the early 1960's, a man named Pearl OLDT stopped by the home of a Michigan OLDT family member asking for help finding his family line.He "has" to come down from one of the sons of John, as his fathers sister (Ida MAURER / MOYER) lived in New Berlin. He said his father was Edward J OLDT, that his grandfather (didn't give his name) had moved to Kansas from Penn after his grandmother had died in a fire.That his grandfather had married a 2nd time and had 2 sons and 2 daughters in Kansas. One of those sons was Luther OLDT. I have found both Pearl and Luther in the SS Death Index (both born Ks), not having any luck getting their death records from Calif. Would very much appreciate one of you who live in Penn taking a look at the 1870 / 1880 Census for the New Berlin area, looking for an OLDT family with a son named Edward "and" a daughter named Ida. Thanks for any "clues", I have wondered about this for several years.