I accidentally just found an email you posted in 2001, in regards to finding Joseph and Gordon Ollerenshaw. I am pretty sure Joseph Ollerenshaw is my granddad and Gordon is his brother. I recollect him saying Elsie was his moms name, and my Nan saying his father wasn't with us anymore. Have you had any luck with contacting Joseph or Gordon in regards to the letters that Joseph sent to your nana (win) before he was killed in action. Have you got any other recollections or information about this family as if we can match this up I'm sure my granddad would love to have a copy of the letters. He has done a lot of research into the family history over the years and I'm sure he would be very grateful to find more.