Thanks for your response. I'll keep working on this as I have time. Another note - there is a marriage in Rutherford Co., TN of Thomas Orrand to Sarah Hays 15 April 1817.I did not find him on the index of that census, however the widow Alcey Hays shows she has what could be a married couple with small child living in her household. The published version of that census by Mrs. L.E. Presley shows: Alcey Hays . .males 211100-females 1101-0 I'm told the original film shows one more older female, but haven't been able to confirm that yet. She's on the index of Heritage Quest, however image that comes up is for the next page and appears one whole page was skipped.